How the spirit of cycling has changed

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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby reohn2 » 13 Apr 2016, 8:41pm

Tangled Metal wrote:I got shocked last year when I heard about the guy in the bike shop owning a 3 grand bike. Think I've never met anyone with a bike much over £1500! Mind you he'd just told me it was nicked from his garage and insurance didn't pay up because his anchor was only silver rated or something like that.

If it'd been gold plated they may have nicked the anchor instead :mrgreen:


There comes across that there's a growing core of curmudgeons on this forum who are only happy complaining....

Is that a complaint?
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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby blackbike » 13 Apr 2016, 11:26pm

The good thing about the Strava boys and girls on their expensive bikes and in their expensive clothes is that they help convince people that cycling is trendy.

Many people need to know something is trendy before they try it.

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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby colin54 » 14 Apr 2016, 12:57am

'' Gritty humour is that :wink: ''

There's bags of it round here.

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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby Manc33 » 14 Apr 2016, 1:02am

I enjoy ending up at the top of a hill, with a view, whether its 600M long @ 9% or 3 miles long @ 3%.
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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby roberts8 » 14 Apr 2016, 8:18am

We used gps on our boat so I am not anti but the view of the overall area by looking at a map or chart is helpful and I often find interesting things I would have missed. Also, the stops to check the map are often a blessing but maybe that is just my lack of fitness. I still like to record distance etc on my cateye but it is a bit on the small side.

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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby al_yrpal » 14 Apr 2016, 8:36am

I have noticed that many of the Mamil types are completely flumoxed when they get a puncture and quite often they dont carry a spare tube, puncture outfit or a pump, or if they do they have no idea how to get a wheel out and effect a repair. I reckon that I will stop and assist one of them who is stranded every few weeks. If its a rear wheel I usually do the repair, get them to pump it up and then ride off leaving them to refit it. They usually look pretty lost because they havent got a clue how to refit it. It is cruel, but they need to think about punctures rather than being so focussed on how to look like a belisha beacon. :D

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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby pwa » 14 Apr 2016, 9:20am

The phrase "Mamil" has applied to me so long that I will soon have to abandon it in favour of Old Aged Man in Lycra. I see myself as a touring cyclist (doing a bit of audax), in the long tradition of touring cyclists. Lycra, for me, goes hand in hand with traditional cycle touring.

The true spirit of cycling must include tolerance and a readiness to accept people who are cycling in a slightly different way. The Strava thing is just the latest variation. Let's not worry about it too much.

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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby whoof » 14 Apr 2016, 9:27am

al_yrpal wrote:I have noticed that many of the Mamil types are completely flumoxed when they get a puncture and quite often they dont carry a spare tube, puncture outfit or a pump, or if they do they have no idea how to get a wheel out and effect a repair. I reckon that I will stop and assist one of them who is stranded every few weeks. If its a rear wheel I usually do the repair, get them to pump it up and then ride off leaving them to refit it. They usually look pretty lost because they havent got a clue how to fit it. It is cruel, but they need to think about punctures rather than being so focussed on how to look like a belisha beacon. :D

Al


This is just people new to cycling and doesn't relate to either age or attire. I've worked with number of people who start to cycle commute and when I've asked them do the carry a tube/levers/pump and know how to use them the response is 'I've never punctured' or 'I'll be fine'. It usually takes a long walk pushing a bike to persuade people that they should carry these things.

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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby pwa » 14 Apr 2016, 9:39am

whoof wrote:
al_yrpal wrote:I have noticed that many of the Mamil types are completely flumoxed when they get a puncture and quite often they dont carry a spare tube, puncture outfit or a pump, or if they do they have no idea how to get a wheel out and effect a repair. I reckon that I will stop and assist one of them who is stranded every few weeks. If its a rear wheel I usually do the repair, get them to pump it up and then ride off leaving them to refit it. They usually look pretty lost because they havent got a clue how to fit it. It is cruel, but they need to think about punctures rather than being so focussed on how to look like a belisha beacon. :D

Al


This is just people new to cycling and doesn't relate to either age or attire. I've worked with number of people who start to cycle commute and when I've asked them do the carry a tube/levers/pump and know how to use them the response is 'I've never punctured' or 'I'll be fine'. It usually takes a long walk pushing a bike to persuade people that they should carry these things.


That's how most of us started. Knowing nothing and learning the hard way that we have to be prepared for punctures and other minor problems. If newbies started out getting everything right, that would be a change. In the early 1970s a school friend of mine pushed his bike home, over about 5 miles, because his chain had come off and he didn't know how easy it was to slip it back on. Nothing to do with Lycra, of course. He was probably wearing jeans and a T shirt. Newbies get it wrong, and if they are lucky an old timer comes along and shows them how to get going again. That is an aspect of cycling that has not changed.
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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby al_yrpal » 14 Apr 2016, 10:00am

Its a bit like the tortoise and the hare. They go pelting past with one eye on their Strava with no greeting and wind up with a puncture because they are riding on thin slicks on the Chilterns' flint strewn roads. Or, they don't know the short cuts and wonder why the same old bloke with his trousers tucked into his socks and cycle clips they passed two miles back has magically appeared in front of them yet again! Its amusing, but as you say they will get it eventually. :D

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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby thornie1543 » 14 Apr 2016, 10:28am

I love all the people who spend tons of money on all the cycling gear they never use,in eight months time that's my new/second hand stuff,long may they continue

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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby Geoff.D » 14 Apr 2016, 10:34am

pwa wrote:The true spirit of cycling must include tolerance and a readiness to accept people who are cycling in a slightly different way. The Strava thing is just the latest variation. Let's not worry about it too much.


Well said

pwa wrote:Newbies get it wrong, and if they are lucky an old timer comes along and shows them how to get going again. That is an aspect of cycling that has not changed.


Well said again. But it doesn't need to be an old timer. In my case it was my Dad taking me on my first YHA tour at 10, and showing me (letting me play at) repairs in our workshop cellar even before that. "Hands on" is as good a way to learn as any...whether you call it playing, fiddling, fettling, maintenance, adjusting, upgrading, customising, etc.

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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby Sweep » 14 Apr 2016, 9:19pm

al_yrpal wrote:I have noticed that many of the Mamil types are completely flumoxed when they get a puncture and quite often they dont carry a spare tube, puncture outfit or a pump, or if they do they have no idea how to get a wheel out and effect a repair. I reckon that I will stop and assist one of them who is stranded every few weeks. If its a rear wheel I usually do the repair, get them to pump it up and then ride off leaving them to refit it. They usually look pretty lost because they havent got a clue how to refit it. It is cruel, but they need to think about punctures rather than being so focussed on how to look like a belisha beacon. :D

Al


I love seeing some of the better equipped ones trying to pump up their tyres with their oh so impressive suppository sized pumps.

I used to lead lots of rides. One chap, not exactly a mamil but with poseur tendencies came along without water. Can't remember why but it was either because it would spoil the lines of the bike or involve the carrying of surplus weight. Begged me for water half way through the ride. Reader, I refused.
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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby SpannerGeek » 14 Apr 2016, 11:19pm

Mamil: I've punctured, I. Can't believe it..

Me: Oh, well even though 10k bikes get punctures. Er, have you got a spare tube. A pump even..

Mamil: Er, no. I thought you'd have them.

Me: I've just got the one.

Mamil: Can I have it ?

Me: There's a railway station four miles up the road. Cheerio now!,

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Re: How the spirit of cycling has changed

Postby SpannerGeek » 14 Apr 2016, 11:23pm

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