Greatest ever uk frame builder?

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brynpoeth
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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby brynpoeth » 18 Nov 2018, 6:09pm

Uppadine? Mentioned elsewhere on these fora :wink:
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
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Racingt
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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby Racingt » 18 Nov 2018, 11:41pm

Workmanship of my Chas Roberts is fantastic, but the 20 year old design feels very dated compared with my Mason Definition.
As far as I’m concerned, we’ve never had such fantastic bikes as we have today, and I’ve been riding 56 years....

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kylecycler
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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby kylecycler » 19 Nov 2018, 12:48am

Three HR Morris bicycles for SpannerGeek, if he hasn't seen them before:

https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/20 ... asterwork/

https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/20 ... le-c-1965/

https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/20 ... urer-1969/

You'll see the writer of the blog frequented Dick Morris's shop when he was in his teens - it was his LBS - and he knew 'HRM' well.

fastpedaller
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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby fastpedaller » 19 Nov 2018, 9:15am

kylecycler wrote:Three HR Morris bicycles for SpannerGeek, if he hasn't seen them before:

https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/20 ... asterwork/

https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/20 ... le-c-1965/

https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/20 ... urer-1969/

You'll see the writer of the blog frequented Dick Morris's shop when he was in his teens - it was his LBS - and he knew 'HRM' well.



Wow! Some great craftsmanship there - the first one especially. :D

Canuk
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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby Canuk » 19 Nov 2018, 9:54am

fastpedaller wrote:
kylecycler wrote:Three HR Morris bicycles for SpannerGeek, if he hasn't seen them before:

https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/20 ... asterwork/

https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/20 ... le-c-1965/

https://vintagebicycle.wordpress.com/20 ... urer-1969/

You'll see the writer of the blog frequented Dick Morris's shop when he was in his teens - it was his LBS - and he knew 'HRM' well.



Wow! Some great craftsmanship there - the first one especially. :D


If I could have one great vintage British frame it would be this one. Hard to find though.

hamish
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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby hamish » 24 Dec 2018, 8:54pm

I had a 1986 Woodrup bought of the peg from JD Whisker. It was absolutely immaculate with a superb paint job. Blue, 73 degree parallel 531c and a dream to ride. I wish I still had it.

9494arnold
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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby 9494arnold » 25 Dec 2018, 12:04pm

I used to live round the corner from Major Nichols, quite an interesting chap if you got him on a good day! .
I did hear a story about someone travelling from America to get a frame built and during the discussion the Major took a dislike to him and refused to make him a frame.
He once claimed to be the man behind the idea of 700c size high pressure rims .
I do now have one of his frames, understatated but clearly well executed and a nice thing to ride.
( I have had or have Condor/ Bates/ Hetchins/ Raleigh SBDU/ Bob Jackson and it compares favourably)
He used to chide me for being a Trike rider, went in the shop once when another gent was in there to be greeted with a
" All the local nut cases are in here now" : Another trike rider !

When I was younger I did a bit of track racing at Halesowen (on a road/path Claud Butler) most of the serious locals had one of Majors' frames. Quite a few of the roadies did too.

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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby Bowedw » 25 Dec 2018, 6:24pm

I have a Fred James in 853 with Cinelli lugs built by Rick Powell. I would class the workmanship as amongst the best and the quality of the paint and chrome is outstanding, I bought it second hand and enjoy using it even though it is a very short wheelbase frame. My go to bike for all round use is a 1984 Raleigh Record Ace and I rate the Raleigh bikes of that era as second to none.
Any information on Rick Powell would be appreciated.

peetee
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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby peetee » 25 Dec 2018, 6:57pm

My best race bike is my 753 Rick Powell. Before that a 531 pro by him too. I Totally agree about his capability. His links to Raleigh and Carlton are strong. Just Google 'Rick Powell bikes'.
Current status report:
Latter side of fifty and feeling less than nifty.
Too many bikes on pegs and too few miles in the legs.

Bowedw
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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby Bowedw » 26 Dec 2018, 7:41pm

Thanks peetee thats really useful and good to know that you also appreciate a Rick Powell frame.

brynpoeth
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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby brynpoeth » 26 Dec 2018, 8:20pm

brynpoeth wrote:A S Gillott of course

Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
We love safety cameras & STOP signs

irc
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Re: Greatest ever uk frame builder?

Postby irc » 26 Dec 2018, 10:37pm

Earlier in the thread Dave Moulton was mentioned. For anyone who hasn't seen it he has a long running blog discussing his frame building and other issues.

http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/

A customer called me saying his Fuso Lux frame he had bought had a tiny bubble in the Columbus decal. Columbus decals were always a pain because of the material they were made from caused them to bubble when the paint was being baked in the paint oven. This is why you don’t see a Columbus decal on a custom ‘dave moulton’ frame.

I told the customer to send the frame back. When it arrived the “bubble” in the Columbus decal was buried deep within the clear coats and was so tiny you almost needed a magnifying glass to see it. I stood there looking at it, seething with anger. I had finally come to terms with my own perfectionism, but still had to deal with the perfectionism of others. This customer expected me to repaint this frame and there was no guarantee if I did that the Columbus decal would be any different, and maybe it would be even worse.

The frame was in a vise held across the bottom bracket faces. If a fit of rage I grabbed the head tube and folded the frame in two with the head tube ending up next to the rear drop-outs. This time I did not cry; I did not stay up a night building a replacement. Instead I walked into my office and wrote the customer a check for the full retail value of the frame. I attached the check to the frame with scotch tape, threw it in the box and shipped it back. I never heard from him again.