Artistic cycling in the UK?

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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby landsurfer » 6 Jan 2017, 6:07pm

reohn2 wrote:
landsurfer wrote:.......I possibly take the skills route as i am artistically incompetent. I can design but not create.....


By who's criteria?


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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby reohn2 » 6 Jan 2017, 6:20pm

landsurfer wrote: Mine ......


Yours is being challenged :wink:
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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby Si » 7 Jan 2017, 1:05pm

All sport is judged on a subjective level to some extent.

For instance, watch rugby union where the ref is fromthe opposite hemisphere and the commentators will soon start talking about one team benefitting from reading the ref's interpretation of the rules better than the other.

Or after any big football match that was decided by a ref's decision the arguments will go on fo ages.

Even with a trials comp it is down to the course creator's subjective view of what makes a good course - this may well end up favouring one competitor over another.

Just that some sports are a bit more honest about their subjectivity.....which in some ways can make them more objective.

The problem with artistic wotnotting is that many observers, especially outsiders, don't understand the marking system thus it can appear somewhat random.

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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby reohn2 » 7 Jan 2017, 1:42pm

Si wrote:All sport is judged on a subjective level to some extent.

For instance, watch rugby union where the ref is fromthe opposite hemisphere and the commentators will soon start talking about one team benefitting from reading the ref's interpretation of the rules better than the other.

Or after any big football match that was decided by a ref's decision the arguments will go on fo ages.

Even with a trials comp it is down to the course creator's subjective view of what makes a good course - this may well end up favouring one competitor over another.

Just that some sports are a bit more honest about their subjectivity.....which in some ways can make them more objective.

I agree simply races can be objective,100m sprint is totally without question,whereas say a 10,000m race with 'teams' involved can be subjective.

The problem with artistic wotnotting is that many observers, especially outsiders, don't understand the marking system thus it can appear somewhat random.

Agreed again and even someone who does know the marking system,the trained eye of a focused and well positioned judge will see what the casual observer easily misses.
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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby peetee » 22 Jan 2017, 1:54am

Does this count?
adri van de pol.jpg
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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby Bmblbzzz » 30 Jan 2017, 11:26am

It's pretty impressive. I think it might be better called Gymnastic Cycling rather than Artistic Cycling. Or perhaps even Cycling Gymnastics as it seems to have more in common with gymnastics than cycling. The skill, balance, coordination and strength of the people doing it is brilliant.

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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby reohn2 » 30 Jan 2017, 12:32pm

peetee wrote:Does this count?adri van de pol.jpg


No that's an artist's impression of cycling
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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby reohn2 » 30 Jan 2017, 12:36pm

Bmblbzzz wrote:It's pretty impressive. I think it might be better called Gymnastic Cycling rather than Artistic Cycling. Or perhaps even Cycling Gymnastics as it seems to have more in common with gymnastics than cycling.

I think it's everything to do with cycling and gymnastics,Artisitic Gymnastic Cycling could be a description :wink:
The skill, balance, coordination and strength of the people doing it is brilliant.

I agree,I find it amazing much in the same way I find trick skateboarding and BMX,the skill and art can be breathtaking IMO :) .
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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby peetee » 30 Jan 2017, 2:28pm

No that's an artist's impression of cycling

It's a cyclist and artist who understands the suffering etched across Mr Van Der Pol's face.
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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby reohn2 » 30 Jan 2017, 2:31pm

peetee wrote:
No that's an artist's impression of cycling

It's a cyclist and artist who understands the suffering etched across Mr Van Der Pol's face.

Which amounts to the same thing,surely.
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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby peetee » 30 Jan 2017, 2:43pm

Maybe. I can't speak for all artists but I suppose if they can do their job right then it's all down to the beholder.
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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby reohn2 » 30 Jan 2017, 4:52pm

peetee wrote:Maybe. I can't speak for all artists but I suppose if they can do their job right then it's all down to the beholder.


That's art,we may all see it differently if only slighty but it can be many things to different people and also unexplainable too,a feeling maybe.
However we're straying well off the OP.
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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby Peter E » 4 Aug 2019, 10:13am

My name is Peter and I have been a trainer for artistic cycling for about 14 years. I would like to help you if you are still interested please contact me.

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Re: Artistic cycling in the UK?

Postby Peter E » 4 Aug 2019, 10:32am

My name is Peter and I have been a trainer for artistic cycling for about 14 years. I would like to help you if you are still interested please contact me.