Considering alternative to Gels, etc.
Considering alternative to Gels, etc.
On bike energy supplements - right? Gels, that seems to be the modern answer. We see the pro's ripping the top off an energy gel pouch with their teeth and squirting it into them (the Gel, not the pouch).
Now, yesterday I was having a coffee in Morrisons - as you do. I decided I'd treat myself to a pack of "Bronte Ginger Biscuits" (two biscuits in a pack) to have with my coffee. Sitting there I casually glanced at the wrapper that had been on my biscuits "133kCal per biscuit" it said.
Say what??!!!! The SIS Energy Gel sitting in the back pocket of my Jersey is just 85kCal. Am I using the wrong stuff here! Should I be using Bronte's Ginger Biscuits en-ride rather than Gels? Should I be a "muncher and cruncher" not a "tearer and squirter"?
Ah, perhaps the biscuit contains loads of slow release fat based energy? Nope - I checked, its nearly all sugar!
The biscuits are smaller than a gel and they are of course solid and easy to pack, and two biscuits is a whopping 266kCals!!!!....could we see Froomy on the TdF tucking into a Bronte Ginger Biscuit I wonder? Stranger things have happened,.....
Now, yesterday I was having a coffee in Morrisons - as you do. I decided I'd treat myself to a pack of "Bronte Ginger Biscuits" (two biscuits in a pack) to have with my coffee. Sitting there I casually glanced at the wrapper that had been on my biscuits "133kCal per biscuit" it said.
Say what??!!!! The SIS Energy Gel sitting in the back pocket of my Jersey is just 85kCal. Am I using the wrong stuff here! Should I be using Bronte's Ginger Biscuits en-ride rather than Gels? Should I be a "muncher and cruncher" not a "tearer and squirter"?
Ah, perhaps the biscuit contains loads of slow release fat based energy? Nope - I checked, its nearly all sugar!
The biscuits are smaller than a gel and they are of course solid and easy to pack, and two biscuits is a whopping 266kCals!!!!....could we see Froomy on the TdF tucking into a Bronte Ginger Biscuit I wonder? Stranger things have happened,.....
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Re: Maybe we need a rethink?
In my experience pros are sponsored by gel manufacturers. These are only a top up.
My experience of nutrition is stuff like:
Absolute don't care amateurs - Porridge, Cheese and pickle sandwiches, flapjacks.
Enthusiastic club types - Gels and super foods.
Olympians - Porridge, Cheese and pickle sandwiches, flapjacks.
What powers you is of something you need to learn. We are all different.
My experience of nutrition is stuff like:
Absolute don't care amateurs - Porridge, Cheese and pickle sandwiches, flapjacks.
Enthusiastic club types - Gels and super foods.
Olympians - Porridge, Cheese and pickle sandwiches, flapjacks.
What powers you is of something you need to learn. We are all different.
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Re: Maybe we need a rethink?
biscuits in general are 'extremely calorific'. A typical value is about 500kcal/100g.
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Re: Maybe we need a rethink?
UAVDave wrote:Am I using the wrong stuff here!
Not necessarily, as long as you consider the packaging and what happens to it after use. Perhaps you could compare both products and report back for us?
As I mentioned to Mrs H during an advert on TV for the TdeF, just because I am a cyclist it doesn't mean I share their values.
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Re: Maybe we need a rethink?
Brucey wrote:biscuits in general are 'extremely calorific'. A typical value is about 500kcal/100g.
cheers
They're also my downfall. Don't smoke teetotal but just cannot get rid of my biscuit habit. Indeed I am sitting here eating one with a cuppa. But then it is pouring with rain outside.
Re: Maybe we need a rethink?
hondated wrote:Brucey wrote:biscuits in general are 'extremely calorific'. A typical value is about 500kcal/100g.
cheers
They're also my downfall. Don't smoke teetotal but just cannot get rid of my biscuit habit. Indeed I am sitting here eating one with a cuppa. But then it is pouring with rain outside.
Rain and biscuits are a worse combination than cycling and biscuits.
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Re: Considering alternative to Gels, etc.
Need to check whether biccies are on the banned list
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Nowt wrong with the old favourite, jelly babies
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My favourite fuel, both on the bike and on the hills is fruit cake.
A mixture of different carbs, fat and protein. And it tastes good, what more could you want?
A mixture of different carbs, fat and protein. And it tastes good, what more could you want?
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+1 for fruit cake
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Re: Maybe we need a rethink?
Hi,
Choclate is too
But biscuits have carbs that chocolate doesn't.
But sugar is there too.
Getting a biscuit that high carbs means its hard to scoff on the hoof without coughing sawdust.
Maybe chocy bisquits.
I have found that lidl caramel waffles yummy and their chewy
Brucey wrote:biscuits in general are 'extremely calorific'. A typical value is about 500kcal/100g.
cheers
Choclate is too
But biscuits have carbs that chocolate doesn't.
But sugar is there too.
Getting a biscuit that high carbs means its hard to scoff on the hoof without coughing sawdust.
Maybe chocy bisquits.
I have found that lidl caramel waffles yummy and their chewy
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Re: Considering alternative to Gels, etc.
david7591 wrote:Nowt wrong with the old favourite, jelly babies
A member of our section used them - long distance rides like 400ik and 600k and L.E.L. - serious long distance - she found they they really did the job, eaten almost continuously - but they wrecked her teeth in double quick time.
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Re: Considering alternative to Gels, etc.
Horses for courses, gels are top ups and not heavy to digest when doing a full on effort / long distance racing (50, 100 mile or 12hr TTs), anything with a lower effort then eat real food; little and often is my motto for day rides, audax etc. Gels are for emergencies on long rides until the cafe or control has been reached.
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Re: Maybe we need a rethink?
iandriver wrote:In my experience pros are sponsored by gel manufacturers. These are only a top up.
My experience of nutrition is stuff like:
Absolute don't care amateurs - Porridge, Cheese and pickle sandwiches, flapjacks.
Enthusiastic club types - Gels and super foods.
Olympians - Porridge, Cheese and pickle sandwiches, flapjacks.
What powers you is of something you need to learn. We are all different.
I can confirm big bowls of porridge for breakfast - flapjacks can be good bonk rations if you've made them yourself and you know what's in them - and good old egg-beans-on-(toast) at tea-stops will keep you going.......................for cheese-n'-pickle sandwiches I substitute egg, chips and beans!
A Marks&Spencer 'butter cherry genoa' cut into seven slices will get you home the last 70 miles if you've got plenty water - a slice every ten miles. Beware the varieties made with palm oil or other vegetable oil derived liquid plastic substitutes for butter - they give me hellish heartburn . I have also recently discovered Nairns Cheese oatcakes - they've no discernible sugar but they do seem to get into the blood quickly and there's no sweet, sickly aftertaste. Seabrook sea salted crisps keep the salt level up if you're sweating hard on a hot day. My usual standby at moments of need is a Thorntons chocolate marzipan bar - they've got me home many times.
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Hi,
I am interested, what do you eat on a 12hr TT?
eileithyia wrote:Horses for courses, gels are top ups and not heavy to digest when doing a full on effort / long distance racing (50, 100 mile or 12hr TTs), anything with a lower effort then eat real food; little and often is my motto for day rides, audax etc. Gels are for emergencies on long rides until the cafe or control has been reached.
I am interested, what do you eat on a 12hr TT?
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