Far too good to be true

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Far too good to be true

Postby Vladimir » 7 Sep 2017, 10:38pm

What do we make of this, then?
Surely it's a scam?!
http://eurpop.com/index.php?main_page=p ... ucts_id=98
I totally want one, though!

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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby Ivorcadaver » 7 Sep 2017, 11:10pm

Seems a genuine company;Direct Bikes Limited registered at Companies House but prices are in the category 'if it seems too good to be true it probably is.

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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby Erudin » 7 Sep 2017, 11:32pm

One of the e-bikes pictured on that dodgy website was at Eurobike, has a rrp of £5,499, not the £399 they claim.

Scamadviser.com says Eurpop.com (owner Gueijuan Xu) is suspicious, the domain age is 38 days and as such doesn't have an online reputation yet.

http://www.ruff-cycles.com on the other hand has a high trust rating, a domain age of 5 years, and is deemed to be popular by Alexa with a ranking of 650,420.

http://store.ruff-cycles.com/the-ruffian-bosch-ebike.html
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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby Roadster » 7 Sep 2017, 11:49pm

At that price, I'd like one... to hang on my wall...
Is it full-sized? Or just a model?

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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby MarcusT » 8 Sep 2017, 5:11am

There is zero corporate information, not so much as a phone number. And you ask if it is a scam?
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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby gaz » 8 Sep 2017, 8:37am

MarcusT wrote:There is zero corporate information, not so much as a phone number. And you ask if it is a scam?


Err. There's full corporate info. Last time I looked Wiggle don't have a phone number.

1. Definitions
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'Seller', 'We', 'Our', 'Us' means Direct Bikes Limited, 5 Elstree Gate, Elstree Way, Borehamwood, Hertfordshire WD6 1JD. Registered in England & Wales. Company Registration Number: 943 9704 92


The Ts&Cs also explain that the e-bikes require registration with the DVLA (top speed 35km/h, EAPC limit is 25km/h).

There are some other interesting clauses in the Ts&Cs, although I doubt that they are anything out of the ordinary.

6. Price
...
6.2. Whilst we try and ensure that all prices on the Website are accurate, errors may occur. If we discover an error in the price of Goods you have ordered we will inform you as soon as possible and give you the option of reconfirming your order at the correct price or cancelling it. If we are unable to contact you we will treat the order as cancelled. If you cancel and you have already paid for the Goods, you will receive a full refund. We shall be under no obligation to fulfil an order for Goods advertised at an incorrect price.


Section 12 on Liability makes interesting reading too, particularly as the Ts&Cs draw your attention to 12.4 & 12.5.

Whether it's outright scam, deceptive marketing ploy or genuine error I do not know but I'd estimate your chances of getting one of these e-bikes for the listed price as zero.
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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby Mick F » 8 Sep 2017, 9:00am

This reminds me of the sandals. :wink:
http://www.beautywebsites.top/genericty ... 18259.html

I took a punt, didn't receive them, and my credit card was refunded.
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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby Paulatic » 8 Sep 2017, 9:35am

WIGGLE
Company name: Wiggle
Website: www.wiggle.co.uk
Address: Wiggle Ltd 3 Optima Northarbour Spur Portsmouth PO6 3TU
Telephone number: 01324 314212

Doesn't mean to say anyone will answer it though.
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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby Samuel D » 8 Sep 2017, 9:42am

Come on now, people. The reason these fraudulent sites proliferate is that people keep falling for them. Stop and they’ll stop.

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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby Vladimir » 8 Sep 2017, 9:54am

MarcusT wrote:There is zero corporate information, not so much as a phone number. And you ask if it is a scam?

There no need to be a twit about it though!
FYI it came up on Facebook a an ad and I was on my phone so I simply posted a link and asked a question.
I obviously suspect it's a scam.
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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby Audax67 » 8 Sep 2017, 10:04am

I followed the ordering process through a while back, without ordering. They don't state shipping costs before you enter your credit card details and hit OK, so that leaves them free to charge whatever they like. Needless to say, I didn't.
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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby philvantwo » 8 Sep 2017, 7:20pm

Oh yeah I remember Mick F and the sandals! It all ended with a picture of an oak tree!!!
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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby mercalia » 8 Sep 2017, 10:21pm

I bet all you get is a small 6" model :lol:

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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby MarcusT » 9 Sep 2017, 5:49am

Vladimir wrote:
MarcusT wrote:There is zero corporate information, not so much as a phone number. And you ask if it is a scam?

There no need to be a twit about it though!
FYI it came up on Facebook a an ad and I was on my phone so I simply posted a link and asked a question.
I obviously suspect it's a scam.
Manners cost nothing...

Apologies, not my intent to mock you. Perhaps because I see so many of these fly by night operations that make a few thousand then disappear.

Gaz, Thank you for finding that page, I was expecting to find it on their home page, or About or FAQ or contact. Tried to research the corporate number and got no results. Direct Bikes has a different address and corp number, plus they have a phone number.
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Re: Far too good to be true

Postby Mick F » 9 Sep 2017, 6:24am

philvantwo wrote:Oh yeah I remember Mick F and the sandals! It all ended with a picture of an oak tree!!!
Correction ............. chestnut tree. :wink:
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