Croggy - a new one on me.

[Paulatic]

Croggy means nothing as a word.
That's what I meant.

It doesn't stand for something, it isn't a shortened word, or a rhyming slang word .............. or any other way you want me to explain.

Surely though you could say that about many local words?
I.e. kegs....how could they be linked to trousers?
Barm cake, who except those in the know would know it was a bread bun or a roll
Speaking of trousers how are we supposed to know that those in the NW want to buy trousers when the go to buy a pair of pants?

[Bonefishblues]

Croggy means nothing as a word.
That's what I meant.

It doesn't stand for something, it isn't a shortened word, or a rhyming slang word .............. or any other way you want me to explain.

Surely though you could say that about many local words?
I.e. kegs....how could they be linked to trousers?
Barm cake, who except those in the know would know it was a bread bun or a roll
Speaking of trousers how are we supposed to know that those in the NW want to buy trousers when the go to buy a pair of pants?

Dunno, but at least they'll be OK in the US, eh?

I'd spell and pronounce it it "Kecks", BTW - I think there are Regional Regional variations, IYSWIM!

And of course to call someone a barm cake is also used as an affectionate way to tell them they are being daft.

[Mick F]

Kecks for me too. I think it's a derivation from old English.

As far as I was always aware, they are BALM cakes. To do with the powder on them.

[Bonefishblues]

Oh no, I really must take issue with Balm. This cannot be - although I do feel strangely peaceful after eating several.

[thirdcrank]

Barm = yeast
Balm = ointment

[Mick F]

Yes, I know, but I was brought up to understand that it was balm cake.
I may not have been born in Wigan, but I'm from Wigan ancestry and was brought up there.

[Bonefishblues]

Then frankly sir, you should know better

[Mick F]

I have a Welsh birth certificate!

Wigan.
It's changed so much, and I don't like it any more. Not been into the town since I was riding though on my last End2End in 2010.

[TrevA]

Yep, grew up in Notts in the 60's and 70's and Croggy was a commonly heard term. Everyone knew what it meant.

I've been in West Yorkshire since the 40s, never moved away, and riding bikes (i.e. two wheelers as distinct from tricycle) since the 50s. Throughout my childhood days and teen years in the 50s we graduated from playing out with our bikes to doing 'rides' together, and the first I've ever heard of the word "croggy" was when this thread started. I don't remember that we had a word for it.

The term that I hear spoken and shouted by kids locally is 'backie'.

I have a work colleague from Cambridge, who also calls it a Backie. That term probably makes more sense as the passenger is sitting on the back of the bike.

The term Croogy, does appear in some dictionaries:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/croggy

[TrevA]

Round here a bread roll is known as a Cob! e.g Bacon Cob, Chip Cob, Sausage Cob.

[Bonefishblues]

Now that's a whole new can of worms. I worked in Leicester and everything seemed to be a cob, when as everyone knows a cob can only be crusty.

[The utility cyclist]

Bread cake in Hull for the larger soft floury type, to make it easier I just say bread roll wherever I go
croggy us darn ten-foot whilst i scran me pattie in bread cake and make a furn call

[Paulatic]

Round here a bread roll is known as a Cob! e.g Bacon Cob, Chip Cob, Sausage Cob.

So that’s where '
"I could eat a scabby hoss between two loaves of bread" comes from.

[Randy_Butternubs]

I saddled a schoolmate home sometimes.

Is...is no one gonna touch that?

[sloyd]

Yes, I know, but I was brought up to understand that it was balm cake.
I may not have been born in Wigan, but I'm from Wigan ancestry and was brought up there.

Barm is a leaven often derived from the scum byproduct of brewing. It isn't a balm cake Im afraid.
And "croggy" does mean something. It's a word used to mean give a lift on a bike. I'd hazard it's linked to crossbar, in the same way as chestnut is clipped to cheggy, at least in our North Yorkshire vernacular.