How heavy are Pashley bikes?

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How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby rmurphy195 » 27 Nov 2017, 6:59pm

There's nothing on theier web site. A friend of mine has just bought a Pashley Roadster Sovereign, and has been told it weighs 24kg (that's a sack of spuds!). I haven't seen it, but even with all the bits on it doesn't seem likely. Or does it?
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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby pete75 » 27 Nov 2017, 7:01pm

rmurphy195 wrote:There's nothing on theier web site. A friend of mine has just bought a Pashley Roadster Sovereign, and has been told it weighs 24kg (that's a sack of spuds!). I haven't seen it, but even with all the bits on it doesn't seem likely. Or does it?


Why not just weigh it?

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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby mjr » 27 Nov 2017, 7:07pm

rmurphy195 wrote:There's nothing on theier web site. A friend of mine has just bought a Pashley Roadster Sovereign, and has been told it weighs 24kg (that's a sack of spuds!). I haven't seen it, but even with all the bits on it doesn't seem likely. Or does it?

IIRC, they are really that heavy, a full 7½kg heavier than a similar-spec Dutchie and double the weight of a Gazelle Van Stael.
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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby barrym » 27 Nov 2017, 7:13pm

Need to specify what bike and size really. This link gives Guvnor details.

https://stuffdavelikes.wordpress.com/pashley-guvnor/
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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby pete75 » 27 Nov 2017, 7:18pm

Maybe you could even type "Pashley Roadster Sovereign weight" into Google and find it weighs 22.5 kg not far off a bag of tates.

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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby brynpoeth » 27 Nov 2017, 7:55pm

pete75 wrote:Maybe you could even type "Pashley Roadster Sovereign weight" into Google and find it weighs 22.5 kg not far off a bag of tates.


Maybe bikes are getting heavier like cars %-)
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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby foxyrider » 27 Nov 2017, 8:00pm

Traditional Pashley's are certainly no lightweights! One reason there aren't many in this neck of the woods!
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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby mjr » 27 Nov 2017, 8:09pm

pete75 wrote:Maybe you could even type "Pashley Roadster Sovereign weight" into Google and find it weighs 22.5 kg not far off a bag of tates.

"weight is based upon one of these bicycles weighed in the 22.5" size" so the full-size one with the double top tube will weigh more and even then, based on my 16½kg Streetfinder (even with the rubbish thin original tyres - list weight by EBC 15kg), I would expect that estimate of the mid-size one to be slightly flattering.
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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby Brucey » 27 Nov 2017, 9:13pm

yup, I have weighed a pashley sovereign frameset and it weighed about 12-1/2 lbs. That is about double the weight of a 531DB frameset. The current SA hubs fitted to those bikes are very heavy indeed; in particular the latest model of SA 5s hub is the heaviest ever. A large sprung Brooks saddle is a heavy old thing by itself.

That the whole bike weighs over 22kg is quite believable.

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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby MikeF » 27 Nov 2017, 11:01pm

foxyrider wrote:Traditional Pashley's are certainly no lightweights! One reason there aren't many in this neck of the woods!
Not many around here either. All the postmen/women drive around in vans now. Even on the short distance rounds bicycles have been replaced by hand trolleys. :evil:
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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby rmurphy195 » 27 Nov 2017, 11:38pm

Thanks or the replies all. I must admit I simply didn't believe my friend when he told me it was that heavy (as I said I haven't actually seen the bike yet). He's just taken up cycling to get fit, and has to keep in lower gears due to knee trouble! And yes, he tells me it is a bit like hauling around a sack of spuds, but it's what he fancied.

I must admit I do like the look of the Guvnor, which is probably quite heavy, but I live in a hilly bit of Birmingham so I need the gears (especially at my age!), Hadn't even though of how heavy they were, though. Might try and hire one to use o the Stratford Greenway if I can, just for the fun of it!

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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby Roadster » 28 Nov 2017, 2:25am

They make lightweight cycles as well. Their Countryman, for example, has Reynolds 531 main tubes and all-alloy components. It weighs around 27 lbs or so (similar to my traditional Holdsworth steel tourer) and only needs different handlebars to transform it into a "Sports Roadster":-
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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby Brucey » 28 Nov 2017, 7:50am

FWIW I have used a Pashley Sovereign for some years and the weight isn't a big deal provided you have the gears, there are not too many hills and you are not in a hurry. I guess the extra weight makes you ~10% slower on hills and that is about it. There is an aerodynamic speed deficit on the flat that is bigger than that if you are sat upright, nothing to do with the weight.

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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby mjr » 28 Nov 2017, 9:00am

Guvnors are much lighter, but I'd still be looking at the Van Stael which is still steel but even lighter yet has mudguards. Even harder to find one to test, though.
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Re: How heavy are Pashley bikes?

Postby rmurphy195 » 28 Nov 2017, 3:08pm

Thanks for the replies everyone - I dropped Pashley a line and they came back with a very nice response, which shows the Guvnor is quite a bit lighter than the roadsters - reproduced below. I suspect that not only the saddle, but the mudguards (Steel?), chainguard, coat guard, rear rack and the rather grand drop-down stand add a bit. When I've seen and tried my friend's bike I'll see if the handlebars, seatpost etc. are steel as well!

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Our bicycles do tend to vary in weight depending on the size of the bicycle and even with each bicycle built, This is due to the hand crafted nature of our bikes that does allow some variance in amount of braze and metal used, But I must lend this attribute to the charm of the bicycle and it is certainly something that the machine built cycles of other companies do not adhere to, Our bicycles are built to be comfortable and robust, this does tend to increase weight slightly over modern hybrid style cycles, but will certainly out last them!

That said I do have our average weights for the Roadster and Guvnor models, The Roadster Sovereign will average around 23kg and the Guvnor will weigh around 14.5kg as it is built with the lighter weight "racing" steel.


I do hope this helps
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Even so, I must admit if I had the dosh I'd like one, just for the fun of it!
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