im not looking for a Vittoria Hyper, READ THE ACTUAL FIRST SENTENCE

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im not looking for a Vittoria Hyper, READ THE ACTUAL FIRST SENTENCE

Postby The utility cyclist » 18 Jan 2018, 12:25pm

So, looking for a set of tyres to try out for some light off road/ 'gravel' duties, come to the conclusion that I want a Schwalbe Marathon Almotion 700x38. 622-40c.
However finding the variant that isn't tubeless is proving to be difficult, the tubeless is designated TLE Tubeless Easy.
Schwalbe in their ultimate wisdom decided to remove it from the range sometime in 2016 and only produce the tubeless version :twisted:

Why manufacturers mess about and end up with worse tyres I'll never know, it isn't the first time Schwalbe have done this!
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Re: Where can I find an out of production tyre - Vittoria Hyper killer

Postby 9494arnold » 18 Jan 2018, 12:34pm

Looks like Planet X has them and they are in the sale

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TYVIVOHY/ ... lding-tyre

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Postby colin54 » 18 Jan 2018, 1:08pm

These ? Mad price tho', these were the only ones on ebay in that size not described as TLE,you'd need to check with the seller whether

these are what you're looking for.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Schwalbe-Mara ... SwA3dYRwE8

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Postby colin54 » 18 Jan 2018, 1:25pm

Another supplier in Germany on ebay using search term Schwalbe HS453.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEU-Schwalbe ... SwUYNaOW-C

There was another mickey taking supplier there asking £375 !!

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Postby The utility cyclist » 18 Jan 2018, 1:44pm

9494arnold wrote:Looks like Planet X has them and they are in the sale

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TYVIVOHY/ ... lding-tyre

Er, I'm not after the Hyper :?

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Postby andrew_s » 18 Jan 2018, 1:45pm

colin54 wrote:There was another mickey taking supplier there asking £375 !!

That sort of thing is quite common. It means the seller is out of stock, but doesn't want to delete the listing, maybe in case he can get some more.
If anyone's daft enough to order at that price, he'll just buy from another seller, such as the link you did give, forward the tyre to the buyer, and pocket the difference in price.

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Postby The utility cyclist » 18 Jan 2018, 1:46pm

colin54 wrote:Another supplier in Germany on ebay using search term Schwalbe HS453.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEU-Schwalbe ... SwUYNaOW-C

There was another mickey taking supplier there asking £375 !!

The same code applies to the tubeless version also unfortunately.

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Postby andrew_s » 18 Jan 2018, 1:46pm

The utility cyclist wrote:Er, I'm not after the Hyper :?

It does say Hyper in big letters on the topic title.
You can't expect everyone to actually read your actual post.
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Postby The utility cyclist » 18 Jan 2018, 1:47pm

colin54 wrote:These ? Mad price tho', these were the only ones on ebay in that size not described as TLE,you'd need to check with the seller whether

these are what you're looking for.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Schwalbe-Mara ... SwA3dYRwE8

Thanks, I'm not wanting to pay £48 though. it's rather annoying as the TLE version can be had for £26 and the 50mm version is only a few quid more, the frame won't take a 50mm otherwise I'd probably take the hit on the extra weight.
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Re: Where can I find an out of production tyre - Vittoria Hyper killer

Postby The utility cyclist » 18 Jan 2018, 1:51pm

andrew_s wrote:
The utility cyclist wrote:Er, I'm not after the Hyper :?

It does say Hyper in big letters on the topic title.
You can't expect everyone to actually read your actual post

Er, you can actually and the title does not say I'm looking for a Vitt hyper, it says the tyre I'm looking for is better than the hyper! it's not rocket science and is very basic English language. :roll:
thanks for chipping in though :roll:

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Re: Where can I find an out of production tyre - Vittoria Hyper killer

Postby PH » 18 Jan 2018, 2:17pm

So what happens when the perfect tyre you've tracked down and fallen in love with wears out? You already know it's discontinued, aren't you setting yourself up for disappointment, won't you forever be in mourning? Isn't it sometimes better to have one that got away and dream?
This isn't a criticism, or very helpful in your search - I've spent plenty of time, effort and money searching out the perfect part. Some have been worth it, others not, none of them have been magic and in every case there have been easier alternatives that would have done just as well.


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Postby mattsccm » 18 Jan 2018, 7:06pm

Granted I may have missed something but what is the objection to the tubeless version?

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Postby reohn2 » 18 Jan 2018, 7:36pm

mattsccm wrote:Granted I may have missed something but what is the objection to the tubeless version?

And can it not be used with a tube in?
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Postby mattsccm » 18 Jan 2018, 7:49pm

My point. If a tyre fits the spec except it is labelled tubeless why not use a tube? Like I said, I guess I missed something > Do that a lot according to my wife!