Ellis Briggs frame numbering

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David F
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Ellis Briggs frame numbering

Postby David F » 14 Feb 2018, 9:27pm

Just out of interest, I'd like to know the year my Ellis Briggs frame was made. I have the four numbers found on the underside of the bottom bracket, but I don't know how to interpret them. I have looked for a previous thread on this subject, but I didn't find anything so I'd be grateful for any information.
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uppadine
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Re: Ellis Briggs frame numbering

Postby uppadine » 14 Feb 2018, 10:01pm

Me too - sorry to jump onto your thread here but my numbers baffle me. These are on a Favori with playing-card lugs in the inner fork, 6 speed

6138
431
BL26LL58

Any answer to the first might also answer me: thank you!

thirdcrank
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Re: Ellis Briggs frame numbering

Postby thirdcrank » 14 Feb 2018, 11:34pm

uppadine wrote: ... BL26LL58 .... -


That's the postcode for Somerton Road, Bolton ie BL2 6LL House no 58

I had a frame refurbished by EB and they stamped on the postcode + house number as a complimentary service

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Re: Ellis Briggs frame numbering

Postby uppadine » 15 Feb 2018, 7:51pm

A revelation! Fascinating and unexpected, thanks. Any info on the top two numbers?

thirdcrank
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Re: Ellis Briggs frame numbering

Postby thirdcrank » 15 Feb 2018, 8:31pm

uppadine wrote:A revelation! Fascinating and unexpected, thanks. Any info on the top two numbers?


I only know that EB used to offer to stamp on the postcode + house number (police practice to pin down the bike to an address rather than a street) because they did some work on a frame some years ago for me. Something along the lines of "You don't want to spend a lot of money getting your frame done up and let some police cadet loose with a hammer and punches." Also, their paint job is applied after the stamping.

This does illustrate a couple of weaknesses in the postcoding of bikes. If this one of your was nicked, and IF anybody recovered it and IF they realised that was a postcode, they would be contacting a former owner. My doubts about it not being recognised as a postcode are reinforced by your not knowing as the current owner.

I have no information about EB's system of numbering their frames.

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Re: Ellis Briggs frame numbering

Postby Cyril Haearn » 15 Feb 2018, 9:52pm

I too would like to know more about frame numbers
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Re: Ellis Briggs frame numbering

Postby daccordimark » 20 Feb 2018, 1:44pm

Ellis Briggs frame numbers are sequential so there's nothing to indicate the year. I emailed them with the frame number on mine and they came back quickly with the date it was built. I already knew who it was built for but they confirmed that as well. Paul Gibson was very helpful and they did a great job on the frame.
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Re: Ellis Briggs frame numbering

Postby thirdcrank » 20 Feb 2018, 3:11pm

I didn't suggest contacting EB, parly because it's an obvious step, partly because I'd not want anybody to spend more time dealing with old frame numbers than selling new frames.

The company has moved, but not far and the good news is that unlike so many historic names in our sport, this is one that hasn't gone to the dogs. Here's the EB www

https://www.ellisbriggscycles.co.uk/