What to do with a written-off frame?

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What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby JamesE » 25 Apr 2018, 10:39am

My Raleigh Royal touring frame is a write-off after a crash in November. I've been given the OK by the solicitors to dispose of it and I'm wondering what the best way is. The rear triangle is bent sideways an inch or two - probably fixable but not economical for me. I could give it to a bike recycling charity but they mostly seem to want frames in good condition. Anyone know a charity (ideally London-based) that would take a damaged frame, or have any other suggestions beyond "throw it in the metal recycling"?

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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby horizon » 25 Apr 2018, 11:09am

JamesE wrote: Anyone have any other suggestions beyond "throw it in the metal recycling"?


It's not a bad suggestion. Obviously it's shame to get rid of something that took energy to make or might be of interest but the beauty of bicycles is that (currently) they do mainly recycle. And the metal will get used, will save energy and will save further degradation of the land due to mining. It absolutely isn't the worst solution IMV.
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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby firedfromthecircus » 25 Apr 2018, 11:21am

Make a stool.

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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby Brucey » 25 Apr 2018, 12:08pm

you could offer it for cheap/free here and some enterprising soul may be able to do something with it. [BTW If it is my size, I'll take it off your hands].

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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby JamesE » 25 Apr 2018, 12:19pm

Brucey wrote:you could offer it for cheap/free here and some enterprising soul may be able to do something with it. [BTW If it is my size, I'll take it off your hands].

cheers

That’s among options I’m considering :) Don’t want to give it to someone who doesn’t appreciate the problems involved, but this forum should be fine. (58cm any use to you?)

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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby JohnW » 25 Apr 2018, 2:00pm

I think I'd check up with your solicitor on this - if you've received, or are promised, payment for a replacement frame for the one damaged then does it not become technically the property of the person who has paid you out? You'd be paid out on the basis that the frame was beyond use. If I'm wrong on that, then I am and I apologise, but I'd check.

If the frame is beyond safe use for yourself, then it's beyond safe use for anyone. I've been through this twice - the frame builder who wrote me a report and quotation for building new disposed of the frame for me through his metal-recycling system (bike shops do dispose of quite a bit of metal) and the other was taken away by our local council.

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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby martin biggs » 25 Apr 2018, 2:30pm

Brucey wrote:you could offer it for cheap/free here and some enterprising soul may be able to do something with it. [BTW If it is my size, I'll take it off your hands].

cheers


i offered a similar frame a while back foc and had a member say yes to it then never heard back from them so if anybody wants one let me know

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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby JamesE » 25 Apr 2018, 4:31pm

JohnW wrote:I think I'd check up with your solicitor on this - if you've received, or are promised, payment for a replacement frame for the one damaged then does it not become technically the property of the person who has paid you out? You'd be paid out on the basis that the frame was beyond use. If I'm wrong on that, then I am and I apologise, but I'd check.


The solicitor has already said "it's fine to get rid of it". The frame is beyond economical repair, not beyond safe repair - although I still wouldn't want to leave it in any old hands.

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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby JohnW » 25 Apr 2018, 4:36pm

JamesE wrote:
JohnW wrote:I think I'd check up with your solicitor on this - if you've received, or are promised, payment for a replacement frame for the one damaged then does it not become technically the property of the person who has paid you out? You'd be paid out on the basis that the frame was beyond use. If I'm wrong on that, then I am and I apologise, but I'd check.


The solicitor has already said "it's fine to get rid of it". The frame is beyond economical repair, not beyond safe repair - although I still wouldn't want to leave it in any old hands.

Well - there you are then. But, if it's not good enough for you............................

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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby hujev » 1 May 2018, 10:09pm

Build your own Frank Berto Derailleur Testing Machine!

... Pictured on this ripoff site, from his book (which is fully worth buying - any of them!):
http://www.khurramhashmi.org/khurramweb ... ide-7.html

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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby Brucey » 2 May 2018, 9:50am

hujev wrote:... Pictured on this ripoff site, from his book (which is fully worth buying - any of them!):
http://www.khurramhashmi.org/khurramweb ... ide-7.html


blimey, what a trip down memory lane. Berto's writings there mainly illustrate the perceived problems and available choices of about thirty years ago, viewed through a prism that was (naturally enough) tinted by the previous ten or fifteen years of bicycle market (technical and commercial) development.

It is a different World now, or so you would suppose. In fact I do not think the lot of the touring cyclist has appreciably improved since that time....

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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby eileithyia » 2 May 2018, 10:07am

Has it been assessed for damage elsewhere in the frame as a knock on from the accident.... personally I wouldn't touch it to consider as something to ride in future (even repaired) in case of future failure...

While the stool option might be worth considering... other than that yikes.
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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby rmurphy195 » 2 May 2018, 10:17am

My nice 531 galaxy frame has terminal damage from a side-swipe (out of alignment, buckled top tube etc.). I'm keeping it hanging up in the shed, it has a great sentimental value.
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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby cycleruk » 2 May 2018, 10:40am

I cut up my damaged frame to use as wheel truing jigs.
The forks for front wheel and the triangle for rears.
I fit them in the bench vice to hold them.
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Re: What to do with a written-off frame?

Postby mattsccm » 3 May 2018, 9:20pm

Its a bike not a space ship. Bend it nearly straight and its a pub bike. If you are near the Forest of Dean I'll have it and cut it up to mend my trike.