is there a doctor in the house?

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is there a doctor in the house?

Postby westview » 31 Aug 2018, 7:45pm

hello folks
i've been commuting by bike - 9 miles each way - for a good few years with relatively few problems, but of late im suffering with what (sniggering aside) could be described as 'chafing' at the top of my thighs, or lower buttocks. i ride one of two bikes depending on mood and wear padded shorts, but by Friday of most weeks i do feel sore regardless of which bike i use. no obvious issues with seams etc with my clothes.
Any advice on prevention or cure?

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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby Paulatic » 31 Aug 2018, 7:52pm

I’d check
Is your saddle too high
Has the saddle had it’s day?
Are your shorts 20 yrs old?
Although to be honest on that sort of distance I wouldn’t expect to wear Cycling shorts

The application of some Vaseline might help :D
and I’d really check that saddle height again.
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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby Vorpal » 31 Aug 2018, 7:53pm

westview wrote:hello folks
i've been commuting by bike - 9 miles each way - for a good few years with relatively few problems, but of late im suffering with what (sniggering aside) could be described as 'chafing' at the top of my thighs, or lower buttocks. i ride one of two bikes depending on mood and wear padded shorts, but by Friday of most weeks i do feel sore regardless of which bike i use. no obvious issues with seams etc with my clothes.
Any advice on prevention or cure?

The most likely thing that's causing it is the padded shorts, especially if they are a bit tired. It could also be your washing powder, combined with sweat & a little irritation. Lots of washing powders bother me, and it's something that people can develop. You might not notice it otherwise.

What saddle do you use? Perhaps the nose is little to wide for you? Or it has worn & is catching your shorts a little?
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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby Xilter » 31 Aug 2018, 8:10pm

chamois cream?
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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby westview » 31 Aug 2018, 8:25pm

thanks guys
both saddles are in good condition but budget items (one voodoo, one kona) shorts are new-ish. i think saddle height is ok, but i will certainly check this as it sounds like a poss contributing factor.
joking aside, a sore backside can really spoil a bike ride.

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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby Paulatic » 31 Aug 2018, 8:38pm

A good saddle is worth every penny
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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby Vorpal » 31 Aug 2018, 10:38pm

westview wrote:thanks guys
both saddles are in good condition but budget items (one voodoo, one kona) shorts are new-ish. i think saddle height is ok, but i will certainly check this as it sounds like a poss contributing factor.
joking aside, a sore backside can really spoil a bike ride.

Not to imply anything, but make sure the area is kept clean, and change or wash shorts every day. It might be worth trying some very mild washing powder or liquid, like Ecover, or a hypoallergenic one. If you can avoid wearing the same pair of shorts home that you wear to work, even better. If you can't, at least make sure they dry completely during the day.

Also, wash the shorts occasionally on hot to make sure there aren't any lingering germs. They don't last as long that way, but it does help prevent problems of the sort your describe.

If your shorts are newish, do they have a sewn edge or seam or something that might be causing the problem? Did it start after getting new shorts?
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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby eileithyia » 31 Aug 2018, 10:57pm

+1for Vorpal's suggestions, scrupulous hygiene and washing of shorts. Check for chafing by seams. Are riding with or without undies?
Check position of saddles. Consider changing washing powder. Consider using anti-chafing cream, or something like sudocrem / antiseptic / antibacterial cream.
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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby Dafydd17 » 31 Aug 2018, 11:07pm

From personal experience, it is possible to get a fungal infection (similar to athlete's foot) in this area, and it can be very difficult to get rid of. Cleanliness obviously helps, but once it's there any chafing can bring it back. I had several medications from the GP, creams and tablets; all seemed to work until I started cycling again, then back to square one! I wasn't able to ride for ages, and what finally sorted it was an anti-fungal powder (similar to talc) from the chemist. I now use this liberally before a ride, and after a shower etc, and so far so good. Best of luck and hope this helps.

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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby crazydave789 » 31 Aug 2018, 11:22pm

you shouldn't really need cycle shorts any more for such a short distance.

try it without and switch to lycra running shorts. you might bruise a little but not for long.

saddle tilt can also mess you up a bit down there. but seeing as we are down there and this is a virtual doctor surgery - have you had your prostate checked recently? no, just pop up on the couch then, face the wall and think of england. If you can feel something cold then it's just my watch strap as I might have gone too far.

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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby NUKe » 1 Sep 2018, 10:35am

Your tittle says it all. You probably need to see your GP, as this something that has come on recently and you are not new to the cycling game. However look for things that have changed recently, washing powder shower gel etc.
Another problem could be weight gain/ weight loss.
But I would go with the fungal infection all other things being equal.
Also over washing can dry the skin, you could try moisturising


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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby LollyKat » 1 Sep 2018, 11:50am

I don't know what saddle you have but one with a cut-out will provide some extra ventilation to help keep things cool and dry.

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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby Si » 1 Sep 2018, 3:40pm

If it's only happened over this summer I'm wondering if the excessively hot weather has had an influence...making you sweat more?

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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby Retour64 » 1 Sep 2018, 9:31pm

Have you tried Sudocreme? Yes I know it is smothered on small backsides and it has the potential for making a mess of clothes,but for the owner of a much larger backside, it has alleviated most of my saddle soreness problems. Only recently has it failed me, when I had a mild case of shingles in the offending area, as the pain emanated from the nerves and not damaged skin.

It's cheap enough to give it a go.
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Re: is there a doctor in the house?

Postby yostumpy » 3 Sep 2018, 7:21am

I had this, doing a 200 km audax on the hottest day of the year. I am assuming that the chafing is recent, and did it start with the purchase of your new shorts. Turn them inside out, and look at the stitching pattern. My shorts, that gave me trouble , had an externally viewable stitching, that was like a latticework, all around the edge of the pad, and slightly raised. They used this course pattern of stitching to give elasticity to the join , but after a few hot washes it becomes course, and being raised a tad, will chafe added to a bit of salty sweaty makes for discomfort. Don't do anything drastic, just have a week off cycling if possible, to let sore skin heal, then try with your old shorts, that you seemed to be ok with. Let us know the outcome won't you.