1963 National Road Race Championship

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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby goatwarden » 2 Nov 2018, 3:53pm

Mike Vaughan Cycles (Mike's Bikes) in Kenilworth might be worth enquiring of. I believe it is still run by Mike junior and, assuming his dad is still around, might be able to shed some light.
I think Mike senior was running the shop in 1963 and, although I think he was more interested in motorcycles then, he could well have been there.

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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby rjb » 2 Nov 2018, 9:00pm

I will mention this to Brian Sandy when i next see him. A regular visitor on his bike to our local cafe in North Curry. You can see his palmares here.
http://www.cyclingarchives.com/coureurf ... urid=38715
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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby eileithyia » 3 Nov 2018, 9:07am

I have a phone contact for Mick Ives and will contact him later today.
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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby robj7744 » 7 Nov 2018, 4:35pm

Thanks again for the continuing suggestions.

I have now checked the archives for the Kenilworth Weekly News for October 1963, this being the date and location given on the Cycling Archives site.

I could find no mention at all of the event. It could be that the date or location on Cycling Archives is wrong, or that the local paper simply did not report on a national event taking place in the town.

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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby eileithyia » 7 Nov 2018, 5:29pm

Just spoken to Mick Ives and sounds like there were a couple of circuits that were regularly used based on Kenilworth.
He remembers the event well (and your dad, and who he married and passes on best wishes .... Mick has had a heart attack recently but is getting back into cycling and hoping to race next year).

The route was basically coventry rd, common lane, staggered x-roads into Glasshouse lane, Birches Lane, left to go over the A46 (wouldn't have been there then as I recall it being built), he then thinks the pro/independant circuit went down to Chesford x-roads (now a roundabout on the map) and turned left. The other circuit would have been to turn left at B4115. He was then a bit uncertain... it may have gone to Finham and turned left and left again to return on the A429 Coventry Road. The alternative would have been B4115, left on to Stoneleigh road, back over A46 and on to Gibbett Hill junction where left to complete the circuit on the A429.
On the final circuit it would have gone straight on to finish at the top of the town.

Jimmy Saville was commentator.

Hope this helps

Mick sends kind regards to your dad.
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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby eileithyia » 7 Nov 2018, 5:30pm

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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby rjb » 13 Nov 2018, 12:58pm

rjb wrote:I will mention this to Brian Sandy when i next see him. A regular visitor on his bike to our local cafe in North Curry. You can see his palmares here.
http://www.cyclingarchives.com/coureurf ... urid=38715
:wink:


Caught up with Brian this morning. It brought a smile to his face when I mentioned Alan. He remembers racing against him on several occasions but he didn't ride the nationals in 1963. Brian is a regular cyclist and often calls in at the North Curry cafe. I hope I am still riding at 86. :)
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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby Michael » 14 Nov 2018, 9:18pm

Just dug out an old Cycling magazine from 1963. British Senior Road Race Championfor that year was Bob Addy first. The route used was the Classic Tour of the Peaks event promoted by Manchester Wheeler's. Two circuits totaling 84 miles winning time 3-38-38. Climbs included Snake Pass, Mam Tor, and Chinley Head. After Snake Inn down to LadyBower Reservoir and after the climb descending from Mam Tor summit to the finish at Buxton.
RESULT:
1 R. Addy Hemel Hempstead C.C
2 J. Clarey Cambrian Wheelers
3 W. Perkins Liverpool Mercury at inches
4. K. Hill Liverpool Mercury
5. D. Daily Melling wheelers
6. R. Goodman North Bucks R.C
7. J. Bettison Derwent Valley

18 riders finished equal eighth in the bunch sprint same time as Bob Addy
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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby RickH » 14 Nov 2018, 9:40pm

Michael wrote:Just dug out an old Cycling magazine from 1963. British Senior Road Race Championfor that year was Bob Addy first. The route used was the Classic Tour of the Peaks event promoted by Manchester Wheeler's. Two circuits totaling 84 miles winning time 3-38-38. Climbs included Snake Pass, Mam Tor, and Chinley Head. After Snake Inn down to LadyBower Reservoir and after the climb descending from Mam Tor summit to the finish at Buxton.
RESULT:
1 R. Addy Hemel Hempstead C.C
2 J. Clarey Cambrian Wheelers
3 W. Perkins Liverpool Mercury at inches
4. K. Hill Liverpool Mercury
5. D. Daily Melling wheelers
6. R. Goodman North Bucks R.C
7. J. Bettison Derwent Valley

18 riders finished equal eighth in the bunch sprint same time as Bob Addy

Just to clarify that we are looking for info for the Professional event, won by Albert Hitchin with Ken Nuttall 2nd & Alan Jacob (the OP's dad) in 3rd, rather than the amateur one (according to Wikipedia there were 2 separate events from 1959 to 1995).

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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby Michael » 14 Nov 2018, 10:32pm

Not certain there was a Professional event? Weren't they Indepentents Hitchin was in 63.

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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby brynpoeth » 14 Nov 2018, 10:38pm

Independents were sort of professionals
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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby Michael » 15 Nov 2018, 12:30pm

The route you requested for the 1963 Cash-men Independent & Professional Chapionship:
Kenilworth 95 miles in distance on a 7.3 circuit.
Start 11am Leyes Lane Kenilworth, left Glasshouse Lane to Birches Lane and left along Kenilworth Road and at Chesford crossroads to Stoneleigh crossroad where turn left to the next T-junction and then left along Dalehouse Lane. The course then swung left up Knowle Hill to complete one lap.
After 13 laps they continued along Dalehouse Lane and through Mill End to finish in Albion Road.
40 entrants 10 reserves. Prizes from £30 plus 150 cigarettes, trophy, medals, championship jersey for winner, down to £1.00 for 10th place, total of £130 to be won.

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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby eileithyia » 15 Nov 2018, 4:52pm

Michael wrote:The route you requested for the 1963 Cash-men Independent & Professional Chapionship:
Kenilworth 95 miles in distance on a 7.3 circuit.
Start 11am Leyes Lane Kenilworth, left Glasshouse Lane to Birches Lane and left along Kenilworth Road and at Chesford crossroads to Stoneleigh crossroad where turn left to the next T-junction and then left along Dalehouse Lane. The course then swung left up Knowle Hill to complete one lap.
After 13 laps they continued along Dalehouse Lane and through Mill End to finish in Albion Road.
40 entrants 10 reserves. Prizes from £30 plus 150 cigarettes, trophy, medals, championship jersey for winner, down to £1.00 for 10th place, total of £130 to be won.

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As already clarified by Mick Ives... :D
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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby mjr » 15 Nov 2018, 6:02pm

eileithyia wrote:
Michael wrote:The route you requested for the 1963 Cash-men Independent & Professional Chapionship:
Kenilworth 95 miles in distance on a 7.3 circuit.
Start 11am Leyes Lane Kenilworth, left Glasshouse Lane to Birches Lane and left along Kenilworth Road and at Chesford crossroads to Stoneleigh crossroad where turn left to the next T-junction and then left along Dalehouse Lane. The course then swung left up Knowle Hill to complete one lap.
After 13 laps they continued along Dalehouse Lane and through Mill End to finish in Albion Road.
40 entrants 10 reserves. Prizes from £30 plus 150 cigarettes, trophy, medals, championship jersey for winner, down to £1.00 for 10th place, total of £130 to be won.

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As already clarified by Mick Ives... :D

The two descriptions differ whether they used the B4115 and Dalehouse Lane/Mill End/Albion Road or B4113 and Coventry Road.
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Re: 1963 National Road Race Championship

Postby robj7744 » 18 Nov 2018, 3:03pm

Thanks again for the replies to this. As mentioned there are some slight discrepancies. I have checked back on OS maps of the time and am plotting the likely routes onto a public site that I will share here.

In the meantime here is a photo of a break in the Manx International Premier Trophy Road Race from 1963. We have identified three riders but are unsure on the other two, if anyone can identify them we would be grateful.

The identified rides are Alan Jacob on the left, Tom Simpson in the middle, Jacques Anquetil back left. The unknown rider at the front is wearing an Amstel Bier jersey. The rider on the right at the back is wearing a jersey that appears to say ???ane Froux. According to Cycling Archives, Tom Simpson went on to win this event with Manuel Manzano second and Huub Zilverberg third.

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