Had my first puncture today

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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby ndwgolf » 13 Jan 2019, 11:32am

cycleruk wrote:Do you know why couldn't you get the wheel back in?
I sometimes have trouble with the back wheel just sliding back in and that is after many years of practice. :roll:

I think it was more I couldn’t get my head around how to deal with the chain. Since watching the YouTube videos I get it and have since practiced without an issue.
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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby flat tyre » 13 Jan 2019, 12:21pm

It's a good idea to practise taking the wheel and tyre off and putting it all back on again at home, using the tools you carry on your ride. This avoids you having to work out what to do when stopped beside the road, often in less than ideal conditions. Also avoids finding out the hard way that the tools you have with you (e.g. tyre levers, mini pump etc) don't work!

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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby mjr » 13 Jan 2019, 8:10pm

cycleruk wrote:Do you know why couldn't you get the wheel back in?
I sometimes have trouble with the back wheel just sliding back in and that is after many years of practice. :roll:

Put the bike in top gear before removing the wheel to reduce the risk of chain tension being a problem?

My other top tip would be brightly coloured tyre levers, so you can easily find any you drop... or catapult into the nearby undergrowth.
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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby foxyrider » 13 Jan 2019, 9:43pm

mjr wrote:
cycleruk wrote:Do you know why couldn't you get the wheel back in?
I sometimes have trouble with the back wheel just sliding back in and that is after many years of practice. :roll:

Put the bike in top gear before removing the wheel to reduce the risk of chain tension being a problem?

My other top tip would be brightly coloured tyre levers, so you can easily find any you drop... or catapult into the nearby undergrowth.

+1
I'd add putting the sidewall writing by the valve - makes it easier to locate when pumping up and can aid in locating punctures as it then works as a reference point.
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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby cycleruk » 13 Jan 2019, 10:56pm

I do all the above but sometimes the QR nut seems to clash with the dérailleur pivot. :?
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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby freiston » 15 Jan 2019, 8:58pm

Bear in mind that inner tubes are more permeable to CO₂ than they are to air, so if you leave the CO₂ in, your tyre is likely to go flat quickly. It might be an idea to deflate it and re-inflate with an old-fashioned pump.
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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby Brucey » 15 Jan 2019, 9:15pm

freiston wrote:Bear in mind that inner tubes are more permeable to CO² than they are to air, so if you leave the CO² in, your tyre is likely to go flat quickly. It might be an idea to deflate it and re-inflate with an old-fashioned pump.


it is

CO₂

not

CO²

BTW it may seem pedantic to worry about spelling and punctuation; no-one gets everything right anyway. However if no-one worries about it, sooner or later we end up in a situation where we simply can't communicate with one another any more; at the least any complexity is difficult, and nuances of meaning are impossible, and at worst, everything is in complete gibberish.

FWIW 'spellcheck' , autocorrect and autocomplete don't really help much; the writer learns nothing (leading to reinforcement of bad habits), and they often just change words which are not spelt correctly into ones that are, but that mean something completely different... :roll:

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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby freiston » 15 Jan 2019, 9:22pm

Brucey wrote:
freiston wrote:Bear in mind that inner tubes are more permeable to CO² than they are to air, so if you leave the CO² in, your tyre is likely to go flat quickly. It might be an idea to deflate it and re-inflate with an old-fashioned pump.


it is

CO₂

not

CO²

BTW it may seem pedantic to worry about spelling and punctuation; no-one gets everything right anyway. However if no-one worries about it, sooner or later we end up in a situation where we simply can't communicate with one another any more; at the least any complexity is difficult, and nuances of meaning are impossible, and at worst, everything is in complete gibberish.

FWIW 'spellcheck' , autocorrect and autocomplete don't really help much; the writer learns nothing (leading to reinforcement of bad habits), and they often just change words which are not spelt correctly into ones that are, but that mean something completely different... :roll:

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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby foxyrider » 15 Jan 2019, 9:45pm

cycleruk wrote:I do all the above but sometimes the QR nut seems to clash with the dérailleur pivot. :?


Well that's simple, pull the derraileur back out of the way :lol:
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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby MikeF » 15 Jan 2019, 10:46pm

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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby ndwgolf » 15 Jan 2019, 11:02pm

Thats my baby..........just fixing to head out of the door for an early morning ride in Phangnga just north of Phuket........quite roads and lots of fresh air :) :) :)

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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby cycleruk » 15 Jan 2019, 11:11pm

foxyrider wrote:
cycleruk wrote:I do all the above but sometimes the QR nut seems to clash with the dérailleur pivot. :?


Well that's simple, pull the derraileur back out of the way :lol:

That won't move the pivot out of the way. The part that contains the dérailleur fixing screw.
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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby foxyrider » 16 Jan 2019, 11:22am

cycleruk wrote:
foxyrider wrote:
cycleruk wrote:I do all the above but sometimes the QR nut seems to clash with the dérailleur pivot. :?


Well that's simple, pull the derraileur back out of the way :lol:

That won't move the pivot out of the way. The part that contains the dérailleur fixing screw.


If you get the chain onto the second sprocket as you feed it in I find that allows for an easier entry - after i've unhooked the tyre from the brake nlock :lol: giving the QR lever a tap will generally keep the nut out of the way.
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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby cycleruk » 16 Jan 2019, 11:37am

Out with a few club mates yesterday :) and after about 8 miles a call "I've got a puncture" :( from the front rider.
So set to and changed the tube, which seemed to take ages and weather was a bit cold for standing around.
Tube replaced and out comes the CO2 cannister and the tyre inflated.
BANG! - On inspection tube poking out from under the side wall :x :oops:
Oh Dear! or some such comment and start all over again. Another 15 minutes or so of standing around and a successful attempt this time. (No idea what had caused the first puncture. :roll: )

Just wrapping up and a comment "Bill is your tyre a bit flat?" :? . Yes a deflation on another's machine.
Tyre had been slowly going down while we were stood there.
This time, after checking the tyre, there was a thorn found but it took a bit of a struggle to get it out.
As I'm sure some of you know thorns can be a bit of a ###### to get out.
Tyre and tube now replaced but it wouldn't pump up. :?:
Another tube fitted and this time it pumped up and stayed up.
I inspected the previous tube that wouldn't inflate and found a small hole. This was a patched tube but the hole was a few inches away and thought was the tube may have been nipped when installing.
A plethora of punctures put paid to progress.
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Re: Had my first puncture today

Postby foxyrider » 16 Jan 2019, 12:47pm

cycleruk wrote:Out with a few club mates yesterday :) and after about 8 miles a call "I've got a puncture" :( from the front rider.
So set to and changed the tube, which seemed to take ages and weather was a bit cold for standing around.
Tube replaced and out comes the CO2 cannister and the tyre inflated.
BANG! - On inspection tube poking out from under the side wall :x :oops:
Oh Dear! or some such comment and start all over again. Another 15 minutes or so of standing around and a successful attempt this time. (No idea what had caused the first puncture. :roll: )

Just wrapping up and a comment "Bill is your tyre a bit flat?" :? . Yes a deflation on another's machine.
Tyre had been slowly going down while we were stood there.
This time, after checking the tyre, there was a thorn found but it took a bit of a struggle to get it out.
As I'm sure some of you know thorns can be a bit of a ###### to get out.
Tyre and tube now replaced but it wouldn't pump up. :?:
Another tube fitted and this time it pumped up and stayed up.
I inspected the previous tube that wouldn't inflate and found a small hole. This was a patched tube but the hole was a few inches away and thought was the tube may have been nipped when installing.
A plethora of punctures put paid to progress.


You get days like that.
Convention? what's that then?
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