Cycle Stands

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Cycle Stands

Postby MikeF » 29 Jan 2019, 9:29pm

Is there an advantage with this type of stand being installed in Birmingham?
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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby peetee » 29 Jan 2019, 9:35pm

Well, they probably improve the look of the place!
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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby thirdcrank » 29 Jan 2019, 10:00pm

I presume it's to stick with the Sheffield stand principle but without having to include a lower rail ie you get support for the bike and the middle bit provides a locking point at a lower level.

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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby drossall » 29 Jan 2019, 10:18pm

They look like decent stands with the main requirements met - lean the bike against them, don't prop by the wheel, and it's easy to lock both frame and wheels to the stand. Also properly secured to the ground. I'm not sure there's a best shape beyond that. Some are quite decorative, and why not?

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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby mjr » 29 Jan 2019, 11:26pm

drossall wrote:They look like decent stands with the main requirements met - lean the bike against them, don't prop by the wheel, and it's easy to lock both frame and wheels to the stand. Also properly secured to the ground. I'm not sure there's a best shape beyond that. Some are quite decorative, and why not?

Don't lean bikes against them else you'll scratch your paint. Put the bike on its stand next to them.

The slight advantage to the pictured one is easier locking of step-through frames, but Sheffield Extra or TfL A-shaped stands would be better because a lock can't be manipulated next to the floor as easily with those.

I've seen longer wave stands where you can stick wheels through each peak of the wave, but I don't think the pictured one is tall enough for that to be the intended use.
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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby brynpoeth » 30 Jan 2019, 2:49am

Might be easier to secure front wheel + frame & back wheel + frame to the stand than with a normal Sheffield stand
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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby SimonCelsa » 30 Jan 2019, 5:25am

Maybe something to do with access/egress from the bike.

When parking you can cycle directly between 2 stands and get off either side, stepping 'through' the stand, assuming there's not another bike occupying that space.......??

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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby Sweep » 30 Jan 2019, 8:23am

brynpoeth wrote:Might be easier to secure front wheel + frame & back wheel + frame to the stand than with a normal Sheffield stand

Yes, this is my experience. Better choice of locking positions than a normal sheffield stand.. They are good stands. A fair few round London, including British Museum forecourt. I was a bit bemused/doubtful the first time I encountered them, but I prefer them.
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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby squeaker » 30 Jan 2019, 10:56am

MikeF wrote:Is there an advantage with this type of stand being installed in Birmingham?
Well they are definitely better than these proposed for central Worthing (to replace an existing group of heavily used Sheffield stands) :roll:
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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby mjr » 30 Jan 2019, 11:18am

squeaker wrote:
MikeF wrote:Is there an advantage with this type of stand being installed in Birmingham?
Well they are definitely better than these proposed for central Worthing (to replace an existing group of heavily used Sheffield stands) :roll:
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Lovely use of a SS/HG bike to avoid showing that those side rails will probably remove some long cage derailleurs! Trebles all round! :roll:
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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby thirdcrank » 30 Jan 2019, 11:29am

SimonCelsa wrote:Maybe something to do with access/egress from the bike.

When parking you can cycle directly between 2 stands and get off either side, stepping 'through' the stand, assuming there's not another bike occupying that space.......??

Ask the designer!


Sheffield stands should be installed with plenty of room between to allow bikes to be locked on both sides. On the matter of security, with all the CCTV which has been installed in urban areas, I'd have hoped - probably in vain - that some sort of eye might be kept on those places where there are relatively large numbers of stands so that if somebody arrives tooled-up with a van, they might be noticed. Sad, sweet dreamer .....

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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby brynpoeth » 30 Jan 2019, 4:26pm

There are too few stands at my station, one time I could not find a place
The only thing to do was take my bike on the train :wink:
I could have used more time finding a stand elsewhere but then I would have had to get the next train an hour later
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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby [XAP]Bob » 30 Jan 2019, 7:34pm

Child bikes or step throughs don’t have a crossbar at height for a Sheffield stand. Yes, we know the rear triangle...
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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby MikeF » 30 Jan 2019, 11:30pm

squeaker wrote:
MikeF wrote:Is there an advantage with this type of stand being installed in Birmingham?
Well they are definitely better than these proposed for central Worthing (to replace an existing group of heavily used Sheffield stands) :roll:
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Were they proposed by West Sussex CC?? They were obviously proposed by someone who never rides a bike and understands what is involved in cycling as a means of transport. "These will be located conveniently away from main access routes, avoiding obstructions within the street" Convenient for whom???
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Re: Cycle Stands

Postby brynpoeth » 31 Jan 2019, 2:19am

Maybe conveniently on the edge of the CBD is meant :wink:, strangely expressed mind
I park my bike once on the edge of town, then walk, often I want to visit many different shops, the library &c. It would be crazy to cycle 100-200 meters, lock the bike again..
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