German wants to reserve bikespace

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Re: German wants to reserve bikespace

Postby Oldjohnw » 19 Apr 2019, 8:33am

Northumberland is empty. Just hills and coastline.
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Re: German wants to reserve bikespace

Postby Oldjohnw » 19 Apr 2019, 8:35am

Brucey wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:The suggestion that the answer is to get a folding bike is both simple and sensible. But at £1000 not necessarily practical.


agreed. But fortunately you don't have to spend £1000; for example my folding bike is a Rudge (Montague) BiFrame and it cost me a small fraction of that. Better yet, apart from the frameset, most of the parts that make it go are common-or-garden parts which appear on any number of older 26" wheel MTBs etc, i.e. they are readily available and not too pricey. Proprietary parts that make the most compact folding bikes fold very small are, by and large, rather expensive.

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I'm sure you're right but this requires a level of mechanical competence I lack.
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Re: German wants to reserve bikespace

Postby mjr » 19 Apr 2019, 2:50pm

Confusedbycycling wrote:
JohnW wrote:This may be just me, but in that instance I'd walk that distance rather than take the train. As you say, each to his own......................London is unique in Britain though; the tube obviates the need to know the way!


Knowing the London underground visiting London as a teenager I have slight memories of the underground stations. Very steep and long escalators. Perhaps to steep to go upstairs with a heavy loaded bicycle.

You're not allowed on the deep tube lines with non-folded bicycles, so at most you should face one or two flights of stairs. Liverpool Street Circle/Hammersmith line is step-free eastbound but I think there are stairs westbound. Paddington Circle/Hammersmith (where you would arrive) has lifts.

I'd ride it, but (to answer a John's question) I work in London occasionally. I doubt the shallow underground like the Circle would be too difficult with a bike.

[...]Talking about left-side traffic. What side I have to use on bridleways, railway paths and so on. I had the impression that one can use the side he likes.

No, the law (Highways Act 1835 section 78) says basically all vehicles have to keep left on all roads, which includes bridleways, cycleways and so on, but that's neither widely known nor widely done. It seems that unless you cause a collision as a result, it doesn't much matter. There are several other threads on here discussing this which might be found in a search.
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Re: German wants to reserve bikespace

Postby brynpoeth » 19 Apr 2019, 2:55pm

Es ist doch Sitte, links zu fahren auch auf Bahnradwege, Kanalufer usw!
It is customary to cycle on the left, on railway cycleways, canal paths and the like!

And the HC recommends walking on the right
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Re: German wants to reserve bikespace

Postby JohnW » 19 Apr 2019, 6:25pm

mjr wrote:.................I doubt the shallow underground like the Circle would be too difficult with a bike..................


I may be saying this in ignorance, but I'd always been under the impression that un-folded bikes weren't permitted on the tube. I hadn't intended to give the impression that it may be.

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Re: German wants to reserve bikespace

Postby JohnW » 19 Apr 2019, 6:30pm

mjr wrote:.................No, the law (Highways Act 1835 section 78) says basically all vehicles have to keep left on all roads, which includes bridleways, cycleways and so on, but that's neither widely known nor widely done. It seems that unless you cause a collision as a result, it doesn't much matter. There are several other threads on here discussing this which might be found in a search.

..................certainly local convention is to ride on the left, on Greenways, cyclepaths etc. I didn't know that it was bound in law. However, whilst responsible adult cyclists usually obey the convention, there are many, many riders who ignore it and ride all over the path just as they like. We have to be prepared for that.

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Re: German wants to reserve bikespace

Postby mjr » 19 Apr 2019, 6:50pm

JohnW wrote:
mjr wrote:.................I doubt the shallow underground like the Circle would be too difficult with a bike..................


I may be saying this in ignorance, but I'd always been under the impression that un-folded bikes weren't permitted on the tube. I hadn't intended to give the impression that it may be.

See the link in my earlier post: unfolded bikes are allowed off-peak on the subsurface railway aka the shallow underground lines.
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Re: German wants to reserve bikespace

Postby JohnW » 19 Apr 2019, 8:47pm

mjr wrote:
JohnW wrote:
mjr wrote:.................I doubt the shallow underground like the Circle would be too difficult with a bike..................


I may be saying this in ignorance, but I'd always been under the impression that un-folded bikes weren't permitted on the tube. I hadn't intended to give the impression that it may be.

See the link in my earlier post: unfolded bikes are allowed off-peak on the subsurface railway aka the shallow underground lines.


Ah - right - thanks. An issue for a visitor would be discerning from the underground maps which were the shallow lines.

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Re: German wants to reserve bikespace

Postby mjr » 19 Apr 2019, 11:10pm

There's a map on the link.
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