mnichols wrote:Is that bonkers compared to a road bike or mountain bike?
I'm simply flagging up the short falls in modern bike design
I think of my Camino as somewhere between the two, it's a bit like a drop-bar mountain bike, but less upright. I think I'm more over the pedals that a road bike and that enables me to use more quads, also the flared drops allow me to tuck my elbows in and get quite aero on the flat, and the extra width makes it very stable on the technical stuff
I own two bikes that do all of that but have slacker seatube angles
It might be something that shouldn't or doesn't work on paper but works in practice. Maybe it's just new and unconventional. All that I can say is that it works for me, and according to the owners pages for the other people that have it. It's great going up hills - I took it through the Himalayas last year and had some great times going up the big climbs, and it was amazingly stable and planted coming down
Try it - you might be a convert!
To be clear I'm not writing off the Camino as a rubbish bike,only that it would appeal to a wider cross section of cyclists if the seatube angle were slacker.
FWIW I found the perfect dropbarred tourer/alroad bike some years ago in the Salsa Vaya which for me is the sweet spot but even that could do with a slacker STA than the 72.5degree in the 57cm size I ride.
Last year I bought a Gensis Vagabond frameset and built it up to my spec,it's very similar to the Vaya but with clearances for 2in knobblies and mudguards,though slightly stiffer,the STA in Genesis spec is also 72.5 degrees but it measures up at 72degees 0.5degree bonus,and a great bike for the rough stuff,better still now with Jones loop(PX Geoff copies)handlebar
Both bikes get great reviews
I'm glad you and many other people like the Camino but nothing's perfect for all the people all the time