Cyril Haearn wrote:reohn2 wrote:Ivor Tingting wrote: ........I am done and out.
One must be glad for small blessings
I earnestly hope he comes back!
He's probably expressing himself on some other cycling forum somewhere
Cyril Haearn wrote:reohn2 wrote:Ivor Tingting wrote: ........I am done and out.
One must be glad for small blessings
I earnestly hope he comes back!
Cyril Haearn wrote:Because e-bikes are apparently not about going fast, as others claim elsewhere, I do not understand that
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If you want to go faster you can pedal
E-bikes are bulky and heavy too, more disadvantages for frail old riders
E-bikes should be a last resort when one can no longer use a standard cycle,there should be very few €-bikes
Cyril Haearn wrote:No, the maximum limit should be reduced, maybe to15 kmh
Argue nicely please
Cyril Haearn wrote:Because e-bikes are apparently not about going fast, as others claim elsewhere, I do not understand that
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If you want to go faster you can pedal
E-bikes are bulky and heavy too, more disadvantages for frail old riders
[/quote][/quote]E-bikes should be a last resort when one can no longer use a standard cycle, there should be very few €-bikes
Cunobelin wrote:Cyril Haearn wrote:Because e-bikes are apparently not about going fast, as others claim elsewhere, I do not understand that
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If you want to go faster you can pedal
It is a simple choice of bike type... like a folder, tourer, racer, hybrid. You choose what suits YOUR needs and style of ridingE-bikes are bulky and heavy too, more disadvantages for frail old riders
Have you actually seen or ridden one in the last 5 years?
Advan es in motor and battery technology have dropped the weight and size. the modern ebikes are neither. A typical Raleigh e-bike is about 28 kg, not unmanageable and with a bottle or rack battery no bigger than an ordinary bike
Simple demographics prove you wrong. These are the very people who are purchasing these ebikes in their droves. It there was that much of a problem. then we would see them flooding the second-hand market in a couple of months. That is not happening because the problems of being bulky or heavy are being overexaggerated.
Cyril Haearn wrote:E-bikes should be a last resort when one can no longer use a standard cycle, there should be very few €-bikes.
I can use both and have no problem with using either. Why on earth should we restrict these bikes to the last resort?
Recumbents are non-standard or traditional bikes can be of advantage if you have back problems, do we restrict those to a "last resort" as well?
What about low step height bikes, should they be the last resort?
Reality is that no-one has the right to prevent someone from buying a folder, recumbent, utility bike, or e-bike on their own personal hatred for that particular format
Cyril Haearn wrote:I already have a typewriter, diolch, actually I like writing letters by hand
Could anyone suggest an alternative term to 'real bike'?
I note that the Eisteddfod Cenedlaethol is in Tregaron next year, hoping to meet Cugel there, we could argue in Welsh
Oldjohnw wrote:Cyril Haearn wrote:I already have a typewriter, diolch, actually I like writing letters by hand
Could anyone suggest an alternative term to 'real bike'?
I note that the Eisteddfod Cenedlaethol is in Tregaron next year, hoping to meet Cugel there, we could argue in Welsh
Why not "bike"? My bike has two wheels, a number of gears, brakes front and rear and requires pedalling to make it move forwards. The more I pedal the faster it goes es. Just like yours, I assume.
Cyril Haearn wrote:I already have a typewriter, diolch, actually I like writing letters by hand
Could anyone suggest an alternative term to 'real bike'?
I note that the Eisteddfod Cenedlaethol is in Tregaron next year, hoping to meet Cugel there, we could argue in Welsh
Cyril Haearn wrote:Oldjohnw wrote:Cyril Haearn wrote:I already have a typewriter, diolch, actually I like writing letters by hand
Could anyone suggest an alternative term to 'real bike'?
I note that the Eisteddfod Cenedlaethol is in Tregaron next year, hoping to meet Cugel there, we could argue in Welsh
Why not "bike"? My bike has two wheels, a number of gears, brakes front and rear and requires pedalling to make it move forwards. The more I pedal the faster it goes es. Just like yours, I assume.
Both are wrong
It is not quite a bicycle but not quite a motorbike, I shall use the latter
Cunobelin wrote:Cyril Haearn wrote:I already have a typewriter, diolch, actually I like writing letters by hand
Could anyone suggest an alternative term to 'real bike'?
I note that the Eisteddfod Cenedlaethol is in Tregaron next year, hoping to meet Cugel there, we could argue in Welsh
As so many times above, we could just drop the personal hatred, accept that cycling is a wide and eclectic field and that there there is no such thing.
There are hundreds of different formats shapes, sizes, numbers of wheels, and a thousand other things
For instance, is a "racing bike" a "real" due to its impractical nature and inability to carry shopping or touring panniers?
Each has its own merits, and people have the choice as to what they buy and use.
A "real bike" for person A is not the same as a "real bike" for person B, C, D. E, F, G, H, I......etc
Electrical assist is simply another factor in the choice......
Oldjohnw wrote:Just for accuracy, Bryn advocated 12kph, not mph.
The difference is not insignificant.