Vorpal wrote:pete75 wrote:Vorpal wrote:You think we're all doomed, so we should just carry on messing it up?
We have a duty to limit that harm as much as possible for our children, and the future of the human race.
If we're all doomed what's the point- we may as well carry on as we are.
It won't be the end of life on earth we are just one amongst thousands of species many of which we've driven to extinction or the edge of extinction. Is the human race so wonderful it deserves a future? Does any other other species kill vast numbers of it's own kind? Humans have brought the coming catastrophe on themselves.
But what if we aren't doomed? What if some combination of change and technology will allow us to continue and even thrive as a species? What if we can limit further harm enough that we are not doomed?
The human race may have done and be doing horrid things, but we also do wonderful things, works of art, architecture, music, and literature.
Does that mean we deserve to survive? I don't know, but to not even try is like collectively committing suicide, and I don't get to make that choice for others. Maybe the only choice will be to get off the planet because this one won't support human life, but I am confident that that, too is within our reach.
TBH I don't think we stand a chance of interplanetary travel let alone sustaining life if we did.
We have got to turn this huge falsehood juggernaut of consumerist growth thing around or perish the sooner that message is shouted from the roof tops and implemented the better.
Upto now all we've done is tinker at the edges of the capitalist/consumerist/growth(?) at all costs,corrupt system.There is a better way but it involves revolution,revolution against the obscenity of multinational control of the masses,multinational corporations who control governments and sacrifice reason and responsibility to humanity on the alter of short term high profit margins.
IMO the time is running out and the clock is accelerating at an alarming rate,unless something radical is done soon we definitely will see an end to life as we know it.I don't think we're doomed,but I do think there'll be a terrible reduction in humanity's numbers on earth with a remnant of humanity remaining.
The 'clean up' will happen for the most part,naturally and the remnant will need to be strong,ruthless by necessity and able to rebuild a semblance of society.Look at history for the same story but on a smaller scale,empires and societies who seek to dominate and rule by force in the past,capitalism in it's present form is very similar,have collapsed eventually,I can see this happening again,but on a global scale.
We won't survive by leaving the planet IMO.
My 2d's worth