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Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 3:14pm
by helijohn
Can anyone suggest a cycle workstand that does not cost the earth and is Ideal for folding bikes which have no cross tube?
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 4:19pm
by mjr
Bikes should not be held on the cross tube in workstands anyway. The seat tube should be clamped in clamp-type bikes, or there are other styles which hold:
· the saddle and bars
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20KG-Bike-Bi ... 2886167884· an axle
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bicycle-Whee ... 2113556445· the stays
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavy-Duty-B ... 1822497961· the bottom bracket
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-A ... 2672524525Disclaimer: obviously I've not tried those exact ones, but I do have one of each of the first three types. The saddle and bars one is best but requires the shed to be cleared before it can be used, so the axle one gets used most.
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 4:32pm
by firedfromthecircus
I have a Park stand but I want one of these.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tacx-T3075-Cyc ... th=1&psc=1Not sure if that costs the earth or not.
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 5:17pm
by robgul
They are the work of Satan, very unstable - stick with the Park Tool workstand, clamping the seat-tube.
Rob
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 6:01pm
by poetd
Got this from Halfords and found it very useful, no problems with it and the right price for me too.
https://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-m ... pair-stand
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 6:38pm
by Grandad
Got this from Halfords and found it very useful, no problems with it and the right price for me too
Lidl did this a few years ago - I paid about £20
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 7:43pm
by Pneumant
The Halfords stand is similiar the Lidl / Aldi offerings and these are definitely ocassional use only. They are not that stable when biked up and also let down by a poor clamp design which is annoyingly fiddly to tighten. Also the clamp's protective inserts fall off easily, usually whilst attempting to tighten. Park stands are much better and are well worth the extra money just for the superior clamp design.
To the OP - a bottom of the range Park PCS-9 is what I have and it works well with my folder, a Brompton. As other have said >> always clamp the seatpost!
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 9:27pm
by Brucey
any workstand will hold a bike by the seat pin. The bike may want to hang at a funny angle but that still won't stop you from working on it.
FWIW the Lidl stand is very good value for money and is OK for occasional use, with a bike that is not too heavy.
Obviously you shouldn't be working on bottom brackets or hauling on anything when the bike is on the workstand; it is mostly for fitting small parts and fettling.
cheers
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 10:29pm
by firedfromthecircus
robgul wrote:They are the work of Satan, very unstable - stick with the Park Tool workstand, clamping the seat-tube.
Rob
Surprised to hear that. I thought they looked more stable than the Park, not less.
Can you expand a little please? Which way is it unstable?
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 10:31pm
by richardfm
I don't know how much the earth costs but I have a Park tools PCS-9. It costs just over £100 and is much more stable and instils more confidence than the cheap one I had before
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 10:35pm
by keyboardmonkey
robgul wrote:They are the work of Satan, very unstable - stick with the Park Tool workstand, clamping the seat-tube.
Rob
Do you mean the seat post rather than the seat tube? I will clamp the carbon seat
post on two of my bikes but not the alu and steel seat tubes of other bikes.
helijohn wrote:Can anyone suggest a cycle workstand that does not cost the earth and is Ideal for folding bikes which have no cross tube?
Anyway, as mentioned, the heavy stuff such as removing a tight bottom bracket assembly should be done on the ground. What you shouldn't do is clamp by a frame tube:
- Don't try this at home
The above was advertised in Lidl's weekly magazine. Or maybe Aldi's.
I've not done any repairs as such on the Halfords-type stand, but I've built perhaps a couple of hundred bikes using one of them. That included electric bikes and did require some heft to fasten the clamp. And, yes, one of the little rubber inserts on the clamp went walkabout at some point and a bodge was made (a wound up inner tube if memory serves).
If you wait for Aldi or Lidl to stock similar stands they will no doubt be cheaper than the Halfords one. FWIW I held out for more substantial Park Tool offerings (both since discontinued), but the Halfords style stands should cheerfully cope with occasional maintenance.
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 11:05pm
by Mike_Ayling
keyboardmonkey wrote:robgul wrote:They are the work of Satan, very unstable - stick with the Park Tool workstand, clamping the seat-tube.
Rob
Do you mean the seat post rather than the seat tube? I will clamp the carbon seat
post on two of my bikes but not the alu and steel seat tubes of other bikes.
helijohn wrote:Can anyone suggest a cycle workstand that does not cost the earth and is Ideal for folding bikes which have no cross tube?
Anyway, as mentioned, the heavy stuff such as removing a tight bottom bracket assembly should be done on the ground. What you shouldn't do is clamp by a frame tube:
clamping the top tube.jpg
The above was advertised in Lidl's weekly magazine. Or maybe Aldi's.
I've not done any repairs as such on the Halfords-type stand, but I've built perhaps a couple of hundred bikes using one of them. That included electric bikes and did require some heft to fasten the clamp. And, yes, one of the little rubber inserts on the clamp went walkabout at some point and a bodge was made (a wound up inner tube if memory serves).
If you wait for Aldi or Lidl to stock similar stands they will no doubt be cheaper than the Halfords one. FWIW I held out for more substantial Park Tool offerings (both since discontinued), but the Halfords style stands should cheerfully cope with occasional maintenance.
Re clamping frame tubes:
A fellow club member, now deceased would not hang his aluminium framed bike on a bike beak for fear of crusching the top tube.
I can understand that carbon fibre tubes are not designed for such stresses but
I have always balanced my steel frame bikes on the top tube and used very little pressure on the clamp so very little crushing pressure from the clamp involved.
Mike
Re: Workstand
Posted: 4 Sep 2019, 11:35pm
by helijohn
keyboardmonkey wrote:
clamping the top tube.jpg
The above was advertised in Lidl's weekly magazine. Or maybe Aldi's.
I've not done any repairs as such on the Halfords-type stand, but I've built perhaps a couple of hundred bikes using one of them. That included electric bikes and did require some heft to fasten the clamp. And, yes, one of the little rubber inserts on the clamp went walkabout at some point and a bodge was made (a wound up inner tube if memory serves).
If you wait for Aldi or Lidl to stock similar stands they will no doubt be cheaper than the Halfords one. FWIW I held out for more substantial Park Tool offerings (both since discontinued), but the Halfords style stands should cheerfully cope with occasional maintenance.
I have seen those in Lidl and the one in your pic looks a lot like this.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adjustable-F ... 0005.m1851The one I have at the moment is this and no matter how I try to improve it I still find it a disaster. After three or maybe four times having a bike fall off I have had enough.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Home-mechani ... 0281.m3567The bike I have that I am currently working on is a Tiger and I have nearly always had folding bike which have no top tube.
Re: Workstand
Posted: 5 Sep 2019, 5:40am
by Sweep
I have one of these.
https://www.merlincycles.com/bike-tools ... source=PHG(Distrust that touted original price)
Available under several labels - mine is branded Edinburgh bike co-op.
It's pretty good.
Used to have a more expensive minoura but absent mindedly left it outside my garage one night and in the morning it had gone
This one probably easier to work with though.
Re: Workstand
Posted: 5 Sep 2019, 9:25am
by helijohn
Looks nice and sturdy. I shied away from ones looking like camera tripods when I bought the one I have as I don't have much foot room. Don't suppose it makes any difference thinking about it now.
I am not sure what to get apart from having spent a fair bit back in the day I don't want to spend a lot today and I need to be sure I can hang a folding bike successfully.
