Can anyone recommend to me a breathable, brightly coloured & reflective waterproof jacket?

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Re: Can anyone recommend to me a breathable, brightly coloured & reflective waterproof jacket?

Postby andrew_s » 7 Oct 2019, 10:12pm

PH wrote:
andrew_s wrote:. You can do a fair amount by good care - keeping it clean, and reproofing occasionally (i,e, restoring the DWR using Nikwak or Grangers etc) , but it will never be as good as new.

There is unfortunately a bit of a conflict there, as the reproofing bonds better to any already existing on the fabric. So if you do a good job of the cleaning... you've just washed it all off.
I don't think there is a right answer, I'm currently washing in a very mild soap solution, which isn't enough to do a thorough clean, then reproofing, it's working so far and I can accept the jacket looking a bit grubby.

On the other hand, DWR with dirt on top doesn't repel water very much.
I believe that current manufacturer advice is a normal plain detergent (without fabric softeners or such nasties), on the grounds that it gets the fabric cleaner than things like a mild soap.

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Re: Can anyone recommend to me a breathable, brightly coloured & reflective waterproof jacket?

Postby PH » 7 Oct 2019, 10:55pm

andrew_s wrote:On the other hand, DWR with dirt on top doesn't repel water very much.
I believe that current manufacturer advice is a normal plain detergent (without fabric softeners or such nasties), on the grounds that it gets the fabric cleaner than things like a mild soap.

As I said I don't think there is a correct answer. Not being fully clean will also in itself affect the breathability. Yet it's a very common complaint that the reproofing didn't last long, this isn't because it isn't good stuff, just that it hasn't bonded well. I washed a Goretex Paclite jacket in detergent some years ago, it was so far gone I had nothing to loose, any reproofing afterwards washed off in a couple of downpours, I still used it as a commuting jacket for a few years, half an hour at a time so wetting out didn't seem so important.

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Postby PJ520 » 9 Oct 2019, 5:27am

roubaixtuesday wrote:On breathability, even in principle, no jacket is breathable in the rain (they depend on a humidity gradient to dispel water). And in rain for any length of time you end up wet from sweat regardless of how
+1 In 50+ years of cycling and fellwalking I've found nothing that keeps you dry if you're in the rain long enough. All I ask of a jacket is that if I'm wet at least I'm warm. This may not sound like much of a requirement but I once got a Gore Bikewear jacket that leaked like a sieve, I got caught in a sleet storm at over 4000' and could feel ice water running down my arms. Gore replaced it for free even though I sent it to the US Gore operation and I'd bought the jacket the year before in Keswick.
Oddly one of the best waterproofs I came across for hiking the fells was a cycling cape! I suppose it was the ventilation. I've never used a cycling cape on a bike, a cape may be a solution for the OP
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Re: Can anyone recommend to me a breathable, brightly coloured & reflective waterproof jacket?

Postby andrew_s » 9 Oct 2019, 2:08pm

Cycle capes suit some and not others.

A proper cycle cape will have tape loops for the thumbs (using drop bars - presumably you'd use a finger or two on flat bars), and a waist tie. Other capes re-purposed won't have these, and can, in windy weather blow inside out over your head. You can sort of stop this by sitting on the rear end, but I would expect most people would briefly stand or move about enough that this wouldn't be reliable.

Problems with capes I found are...
They are a hazard to bike control in windy weather.
They are un-aerodynamic enough to make a noticeable difference to speed (an extra 10 mins on a 10.5 mile ride into the start of the club ride, in my case).
They make proper signalling in traffic difficult.
They are usually made of something non-breathable, on the grounds that the ventilation from below is sufficient, but that doesn't help your shoulders and back where the material of the cape lies against you.

I gave up on mine.

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Re: Can anyone recommend to me a breathable, brightly coloured & reflective waterproof jacket?

Postby De Sisti » 9 Oct 2019, 2:40pm

I purchased this one about 10 minutes ago.
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Re: Can anyone recommend to me a breathable, brightly coloured & reflective waterproof jacket?

Postby PJ520 » 9 Oct 2019, 3:21pm

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Here's an inexpensive cape, not very breathable but light. They come in white as well as black.
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Re: Can anyone recommend to me a breathable, brightly coloured & reflective waterproof jacket?

Postby Bmblbzzz » 9 Oct 2019, 5:29pm

De Sisti wrote:I purchased this one about 10 minutes ago.

In the orange linked to? Good colour! I hope it works for you (in terms of waterproofing, breathability, durability and, yes, aesthetically).

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Postby PJ520 » 9 Oct 2019, 6:05pm

andrew_s wrote:Cycle capes suit some and not others.

can, in windy weather blow inside out over your head...
I gave up on mine.

You could well be right about that but I can't say I ever saw it happen (with a school party in the Trossachs) Many of us had ex WD "gas capes" Remember them? Which were even worse - if you didn't unfold them very very carefully they tore.

Yet another downside to bike capes appears to me to be the puddle that forms between your arms.
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Re: Can anyone recommend to me a breathable, brightly coloured & reflective waterproof jacket?

Postby Ant... » 9 Oct 2019, 7:16pm

Bmblbzzz wrote:
De Sisti wrote:I purchased this one about 10 minutes ago.

In the orange linked to? Good colour! I hope it works for you (in terms of waterproofing, breathability, durability and, yes, aesthetically).

Looks like a very expensive boil in the bag job.

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Postby De Sisti » 9 Oct 2019, 10:19pm

Bmblbzzz wrote:
De Sisti wrote:I purchased this one about 10 minutes ago.

In the orange linked to? Good colour! I hope it works for you (in terms of waterproofing, breathability, durability and, yes, aesthetically).

Yes, it was the orange one I wanted.

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Re: Can anyone recommend to me a breathable, brightly coloured & reflective waterproof jacket?

Postby freiston » 10 Oct 2019, 9:20pm

PJ520 wrote:Yet another downside to bike capes appears to me to be the puddle that forms between your arms.

A downside! The puddle (and knocking the water out) is part of the fun of wearing a cape for me - it's a bit like the satisfaction of hearing the rain on your flysheet when you are dry in your tent.
Disclaimer: Treat what I say with caution and if possible, wait for someone with more knowledge and experience to contribute. ;)

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Postby De Sisti » 12 Oct 2019, 4:50pm

Bmblbzzz wrote:
De Sisti wrote:I purchased this one about 10 minutes ago.

In the orange linked to? Good colour! I hope it works for you (in terms of waterproofing, breathability, durability and, yes, aesthetically).

Wore it this morning (as it was spitting throughout the ride). I went one size up and bought the large.
It fitted perfectly (not too tight around the chest). Arms were long enough (with elasticated cuffs).
Kept me dry all ride (although I perspired inside the jacket).

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Postby Bmblbzzz » 12 Oct 2019, 7:41pm

De Sisti wrote:
Bmblbzzz wrote:
De Sisti wrote:I purchased this one about 10 minutes ago.

In the orange linked to? Good colour! I hope it works for you (in terms of waterproofing, breathability, durability and, yes, aesthetically).

Wore it this morning (as it was spitting throughout the ride). I went one size up and bought the large.
It fitted perfectly (not too tight around the chest). Arms were long enough (with elasticated cuffs).
Kept me dry all ride (although I perspired inside the jacket).

I wonder if this is the jacket that a friend of mine has just bought? Had coffee with him this afternoon, he told me he'd just been tempted into buying a new Rapha waterproof jacket, also in orange. He said it was waterproof but 'boil in the bag'. He wasn't wearing it today so didn't see it.

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Re: Can anyone recommend to me a breathable, brightly coloured & reflective waterproof jacket?

Postby Noelie » 22 Oct 2019, 5:55pm

I haven't read the full thread, but in my quest for the perfect cycling jacket, i've bumped into these. Thought i'd share in case it's of any interest:

GORE BIKEWEAR MENS C3 ACTIVE JACKET
https://www.cyclesurgery.com/p/gore-bikewear-mens-c3-active-jacket-N1114067.html?colour=155

Inov8 Ultrashell Pro FZ
https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/mens-clothing-c1/mens-waterproof-shell-c51/ultrashell-pro-fz-p12113

Alpkit Gravitas [Mens] lightweight waterproof
https://www.alpkit.com/products/gravitas-mens

unfortunately, none seem to have underarm vents.

Good luck

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Re: Can anyone recommend to me a breathable, brightly coloured & reflective waterproof jacket?

Postby PJ520 » 22 Oct 2019, 6:34pm

Do you get Showers Pass brand in the UK? I've got one that's very good and has pit zips plus a high collar that keeps out the worst but not cheap. Hmm... seems you do https://showerspass.co.uk/
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