rip off local cycle shop?

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rip off local cycle shop?

Postby mercalia » 22 Sep 2019, 1:57pm

I wanted to buy a spare brake cable so popped into a local cycle shop in Streatham High Road opposite M&S. He takes a look at my bike outside "£6.99 Shimano cable for you guv". Thats a bit much? I said " Well thats the RRP he said". No thanks said I & walked out. So I look at Halfords website, £3.49. Is there a "special " cable for my Shimano RSX STI brake levers? or will this one do just as well?


https://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-p ... -mm-single

Thats me ending "supporting" local cycle shops

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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby PH » 22 Sep 2019, 2:11pm

mercalia wrote:Is there a "special " cable for my Shimano RSX STI brake levers? or will this one do just as well?

I expect that's a question you could have got an answer to at the LBS and maybe not in Halfords.
Spend your money where and how you like, but an understanding of why different businesses have to charge different prices and why no one is trying to rip you off wouldn't be a bad thing.

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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby Cunobelin » 22 Sep 2019, 2:16pm

I remember having a "chat" with a rep

I had ordered some cleats form the LBS, and they did not turn up, and as it just so happened the rep was there, who explained that bulk orders for the bigger chains took precedent over the LBS, so if I wanted them urgently should go to Halfords. There is also the issue that buying half a dozen is going to get no discount, whereas Halfords will get a considerable one.

It is two different worlds.


Finally, an LBS will know what they are doing rather than a 17-year-old with minimal experience on a minimum wage.

Yes the LBS can be more expensive, but there is a value and an experience that Halfords et al will never reproduce
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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby mercalia » 22 Sep 2019, 2:18pm

PH wrote:
mercalia wrote:Is there a "special " cable for my Shimano RSX STI brake levers? or will this one do just as well?

I expect that's a question you could have got an answer to at the LBS and maybe not in Halfords.
Spend your money where and how you like, but an understanding of why different businesses have to charge different prices and why no one is trying to rip you off wouldn't be a bad thing.


well according to the Halfords website the RRP was £3.99 not £6.99. as faras I can see it was the same item. There is a big difference between £3.99 and £6.99? Do Halfords get a 55% discount?

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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby PH » 22 Sep 2019, 2:29pm

mercalia wrote:well according to the Halfords website the RRP was £3.99 not £6.99.

Well I wouldn't pay too much attention to anything Halfords say.
Ribble say the RRP is £5.99
https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/shimano- ... re-2050mm/
It doesn't make any difference, make your choice, pay your money. I don't often use a LBS, more likely to use Halfords, for the price and convenience. There's a difference between that and considering the LBS a rip off.
Do Halfords get a 55% discount?

I would expect Halfords lower costs, including stock, to be in that region.

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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby Paulatic » 22 Sep 2019, 2:44pm

Seems a shame you’ve a lbs and that’s the example of relationship you have with him.
With my lbs the patter would have been
They’re £6.99
me: bl***y hell Gordon How much are they gold plated?
G: best you can get
me: A fiver?
G: How about £6 ?
Sale made, good relationship still intact, lbs supported and still there for when that free bit of knowledge is needed.
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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby Oldjohnw » 22 Sep 2019, 2:48pm

All motorists are out to kill us. Every LBS is out to rip us off. All Audi drivers are maniacs. All ebike riders are lazy fools.

Yep. The way of the world.
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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby simonhill » 22 Sep 2019, 3:07pm

Lucky it was as a spare.

If you had been riding and it failed, that LBS being there , being open and having the cable you wanted would have been a godsend.

PS my LBS gives me a 10% discount as a Cycle UK member on all parts.

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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby horizon » 22 Sep 2019, 3:09pm

Oldjohnw wrote:All motorists are out to kill us.


At night on our country lanes I tell myself that and I reckon it's quite useful to believe it - I deal with each car as it comes (none on my last trip as it happens!).
Let's just get Brexit done so that we can get on with the important job of re-joining the EU!

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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby mercalia » 22 Sep 2019, 3:15pm

simonhill wrote:Lucky it was as a spare.

If you had been riding and it failed, that LBS being there , being open and having the cable you wanted would have been a godsend.

PS my LBS gives me a 10% discount as a Cycle UK member on all parts.



that would then have been blackmail or extortion.

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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby gbnz » 22 Sep 2019, 3:28pm

Oldjohnw wrote:All motorists are out to kill us.


Hey, I'm sure some are ok
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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby TrevA » 22 Sep 2019, 3:28pm

I had to have my wife’s gear cable replaced whilst in Majorca. Cost 25 Euros. That really was a rip off. Even at £5 for a cable, I would expect no more that the same for fitting, possibly £10 but not £20!

The guy saw the look of shock on my face and gave me 2 free water bottles to soften the blow a bit.
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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby PH » 22 Sep 2019, 4:12pm

simonhill wrote:If you had been riding and it failed, that LBS being there , being open and having the cable you wanted would have been a godsend.
PS my LBS gives me a 10% discount as a Cycle UK member on all parts.

Any shop being open would have been a godsend, but in most towns that's far more likely to be a Halfords than an independent*. And Halfords also give CUK members a 10% discount, though you have to jump through hoops to get it.
I'll sometimes pay an extra £3 for something simply when it's more convenient, rejecting something in one shop to go to another is likely to take more than £3's worth of my time, though next time round I might go to the other first.

*Yes I know some of you will have examples of where that's not the case.

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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby reohn2 » 22 Sep 2019, 4:16pm

Oldjohnw wrote:All motorists are out to kill us. Every LBS is out to rip us off. All Audi drivers are maniacs. All ebike riders are lazy fools.

Yep. The way of the world.

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Re: rip off local cycle shop?

Postby Rod Goodfellow » 22 Sep 2019, 4:30pm

I had to have my wife’s gear cable replaced whilst in Majorca. Cost 25 Euros.

Sounds a bargain,what gear can you get her into now? :roll: :roll: :roll: