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I have owned this bike for about 40 years. When I got it I was about 11 or twelve. I painted it red, then green, over the original black. About twenty years ago it crossed the channel with me, an I spent six weeks riding around Paris on it. It's about time I treated it to a new set of rims and a restoration! I recently started wondering what it was, and today removed the paint over the very feint badge.
My nearest guess so far is a pre war Enfield, having found a picture of an identical frame in a book. However I still cannot find reference to the above badge anywhere!


Any ideas?

Thanks, Nick.

Phillips perhaps ?
Short 5 minute publicity film here from the fifties which shows the head badge at one point.
The line under the Phillips name looks like it might be something similar to yours, or not ,
hard to tell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDy0cseFUA0

Can't help with the head badge. Drive train on the left hand side strikes me as somewhat unusual.

gaz wrote:Can't help with the head badge. Drive train on the left hand side strikes me as somewhat unusual.

Trust me not to notice the obvious !
Another Phillips publicity film here, with soundtrack, worth watching anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZue9fJEBgk

gaz wrote:Drive train on the left hand side strikes me as somewhat unusual.

Drive train is normal - some of the photos have been flipped. You can see this from the name 'Bontrager' on the tyre in the upper left of the first and last (identical) picture.

LollyKat wrote:

gaz wrote:Drive train on the left hand side strikes me as somewhat unusual.

Drive train is normal - some of the photos have been flipped. You can see this from the name 'Bontrager' on the tyre in the upper left of the first and last (identical) picture.

You beat me to it!

I've got a Moulton with the drive on the left.

Maybe it was one of these: (?)

Almost certainly Raleigh I would think, by the shape

Mick F wrote:I've got a Moulton with the drive on the left.
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I want one! - where did you get the left -handed derailleur?

Hi
Warwick?
Elswick (not Hopper)?
Regards
tim-b

Debs wrote:

Maybe it was one of these: (?)

That was my thinking.

Wow guys, thanks for all your replies! Yes, the picture of the whole bike was flipped on photo editor. I did that to compare it to a pic I have of a Royal Enfield army bicycle I have. Apart from the front crank, it's identical.

I don't think it's a Raleigh badge. It may appear so but there are two chunks of original black paint missing that makes the top look like the head of the Bird.

I think it's a crown surrounded by a laurel wreath, with another crown on top.

After much interweaving, I reckon it's an early Dawes.
You can see the D, and the torch handle and flame.
Maybe this version had a wreath around it too.

colin54 wrote:Another Phillips publicity film here, with soundtrack, worth watching anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZue9fJEBgk

Thanks for posting the youtube link film, i wanted to buy one after watching that!

You maybe right about it being a Phillips.