Toolkit pliers?

General cycling advice ( NOT technical ! )
pwa
Posts: 12516
Joined: 2 Oct 2011, 8:55pm

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby pwa » 4 Feb 2020, 10:16am

slowster wrote:As a general purpose tool I like the Knipex Pliers Wrench. The 150mm size is much heavier (170g) than some of the lightweight multi-tools, but it is a much more useful tool:

- Parallel jaws properly grip spanner flats, unlike ordinary pliers which often have the potential to damage fastenings with their serrated jaws.
- The way the pliers work ensures that fastenings are gripped by the flats with no play or looseness which might result in the corners being rounded off
- Very wide opening jaws (27mm on the 150mm version), so it can be used for everything from tightening a presta valve core to a pedal or a solid axle nut.

Although it's not designed primarily as a pair of pliers, I've found it useful for awkward tasks like gripping the tabs on BB7 disc brake pads to twist and remove the pad, and to crimp the metal brackets supplied with SKS mudguards (for which the parallel closing jaws are far better than pliers), and I've read of others using them to bend warped brake discs.

I have a sawn off and much filed down little spanner for my SKS mudguards, which I tuck in the neoprene pouch with my multitool. Two inches long and filed thin, but does the job perfectly.

reohn2
Posts: 39708
Joined: 26 Jun 2009, 8:21pm

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby reohn2 » 4 Feb 2020, 10:26am

A photo of the ones I have(much lighter in weight than some):- https://www.google.com/search?client=ta ... 8L59KCXlrM
-----------------------------------------------------------
I cycle therefore I am.

whoof
Posts: 2366
Joined: 29 Apr 2014, 2:13pm

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby whoof » 4 Feb 2020, 11:07am

I've often taken a Leatherman when camping.

Not sure of the quality but it might depend on how often you use it and what you have to grip. I got a really small pair of Boyz Toyz pliers tool (similar to link below) about the size of a Leatherman Micra as a secret Santa present. The limit was £5 and as well as the tool I got a bottle of red wine!
https://www.etwist.co.uk/products/detai ... -in-1.html

An even cheaper alternative is my teeth.

User avatar
NUKe
Posts: 3887
Joined: 23 Apr 2007, 11:07pm
Location: Suffolk

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby NUKe » 4 Feb 2020, 11:53am

NUKe
_____________________________________

a.twiddler
Posts: 46
Joined: 4 Jun 2009, 12:17am

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby a.twiddler » 4 Feb 2020, 12:00pm

+ 1 for the Swiss Army Knife. I have a Victorinox Handyman which has a very neat set of pliers. In any case, it's always in my pocket so it's not so much a cycling item but part of my life. Very pocketable, unlike a Leatherman (though I've also had one of those) which to me is more of a toolkit item, or best kept in a pouch.

User avatar
Cugel
Posts: 3405
Joined: 13 Nov 2017, 11:14am

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby Cugel » 4 Feb 2020, 12:00pm

If you need pliers to deal with just a pump, better get some geet big proper uns to deal with all the other seized bolts and screws of larger heft about your cycle!

https://www.fine-tools.com/screw-removal-tools.html

Don't keep them in yer back pocket as they might get bored and have a nip at your maximus.

Cugel

reohn2
Posts: 39708
Joined: 26 Jun 2009, 8:21pm

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby reohn2 » 4 Feb 2020, 12:18pm

As I posted up thread tools fall into two catagories often/daily used tools and seldom/one off/just in case tools.
The former are better being as high quality as can be afforded which will pay back their initial cost many times over.The latter needn't be such high quality items.
Obviously it isn't so clear cut as I mention and sometimes poor quality tools can be more of a hindrance than a help and in extremis can be dangerous,the individual needs to weigh up when and how they'll use any tool and whether it will satisfy their own needs satisfactorily.
Leatherman make some fine multitools as do Knipex make the finest pliers,but one needs to ask one's self does the application need such an investment to sit in a saddlebag 99.9% of the time or would a lower quality item do the job just as good for the amount of use it'll see?
-----------------------------------------------------------
I cycle therefore I am.

Psamathe
Posts: 11384
Joined: 10 Jan 2014, 8:56pm

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby Psamathe » 4 Feb 2020, 12:23pm

I carry a Gerber Dime Mini Multi Tool https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007BKL6G4.

Small, weigh nothing. For an occasional emergency they are fine (but not something for a home toolkit and regular use).

Ian

colin54
Posts: 1313
Joined: 24 Sep 2013, 4:34pm

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby colin54 » 4 Feb 2020, 12:52pm

If you have a car, you may find a handy one in the toolkit if it has one, they open out so they would grip a nut as well, the one on the left is from a Toyota, the smaller one would be perfect.
P1120560.JPG

RJC
Posts: 152
Joined: 30 Jan 2007, 7:17pm

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby RJC » 4 Feb 2020, 1:04pm

slowster wrote:As a general purpose tool I like the Knipex Pliers Wrench. The 150mm size is much heavier (170g) than some of the lightweight multi-tools, but it is a much more useful tool:
...


If you are in Reading, Clas Ohlson sell 150mm Pliers Wrench for £30 https://www.clasohlson.com/uk/Knipex-Pliers-Wrench/p/Pr409448000

hemo
Posts: 786
Joined: 16 Nov 2017, 5:40pm
Location: West Sussex

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby hemo » 4 Feb 2020, 1:26pm

I carry a lezyne mighty/mini morph pump I think it is called with a Schrader valve, with Presta's I carry a couple of small brass adapters which simply screw on the presta. They sit in with the puncture kit and are cheap to buy.

roberts8
Posts: 348
Joined: 20 May 2011, 9:14pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby roberts8 » 4 Feb 2020, 3:50pm

I have a leatherman which has been with me for years but I was told by a friend in the police that as it had a locked blade it was illegal hence I leave it in the bottom of my pannier on the bike or in my box when fishing. Would I really be risking a problem if found by the local constabulary?

Jdsk
Posts: 1406
Joined: 5 Mar 2019, 5:42pm

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby Jdsk » 4 Feb 2020, 4:02pm

roberts8 wrote:I have a leatherman which has been with me for years but I was told by a friend in the police that as it had a locked blade it was illegal hence I leave it in the bottom of my pannier on the bike or in my box when fishing. Would I really be risking a problem if found by the local constabulary?

It's worth looking at the actual law, which is rather surprising. https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
In practice you're very likely to have "good reasons" for carriage that are accepted by the police officer. It being with other tools might help. But my multitool comes out of my work bag when I'm travelling in London and similar.

Jonathan
Last edited by Jdsk on 4 Feb 2020, 5:53pm, edited 1 time in total.

reohn2
Posts: 39708
Joined: 26 Jun 2009, 8:21pm

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby reohn2 » 4 Feb 2020, 5:02pm

Jdsk wrote:
roberts8 wrote:I have a leatherman which has been with me for years but I was told by a friend in the police that as it had a locked blade it was illegal hence I leave it in the bottom of my pannier on the bike or in my box when fishing. Would I really be risking a problem if found by the local constabulary?

It's worth looking at the actual law, which is rather surprising. https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
In practice you're very likely to have "good reasons" for carriage that are accepted by the police officer. it being with other tools might help. But my multitool comes out of my work bag when I'm travelling in London and similar.

Jonathan

I thought any blade hadmto be 3inch or longer to be illegal to carry,or have I got that wrong :?
I carry the smallest Swiss Army penknife about with me everywhere I go.
-----------------------------------------------------------
I cycle therefore I am.

User avatar
NATURAL ANKLING
Posts: 11949
Joined: 24 Oct 2012, 10:43pm
Location: English Riviera

Re: Toolkit pliers?

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 4 Feb 2020, 5:10pm

Hi,
colin54 wrote:If you have a car, you may find a handy one in the toolkit if it has one, they open out so they would grip a nut as well, the one on the left is from a Toyota, the smaller one would be perfect.
P1120560.JPG

They were standard in motorcycle tool kits as well.
NA Thinks Just End 2 End Return + Bivvy
You'll Still Find Me At The Top Of A Hill
Please forgive the poor Grammar I blame it on my mobile and phat thinkers.