Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

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Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby mercalia » 28 Jun 2020, 9:22pm

I have just bought some replacement Karrimor panniers from EBay , the exact model I bought 20 years ago, the largest they ever made and dont come up often on Ebay, with arear pocket and a top net pocket - these ones have clearly been stored some where mostly unused as a bit musty they are almost new compared to mine that have been used most days for the last 20 years - so some places I have restitched them and some of the reflective material now gone, but still intact

Got me thinking any one here still using saddle bag/panniers from decades ago & I wonder if those super plasticky surfaced, non fabric ones that are 100% water proof eg Ortlieb would stand the test of time without cracking. Experiences?

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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby Barks » 28 Jun 2020, 10:49pm

I have a set of Karrimor panniers that I bought for a cycle camping trip to Brittany I did in 1975 - I have used them routinely ever since although now only for shopping trips on a 1995 Claude Butler Shinob (bought new then, the only non original parts are the rear block, chains, cables and brake blocks. The bags are green with red straps and a single pocket on the rear. They still keep the rain out.

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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby gaz » 28 Jun 2020, 11:43pm

Full set of Carradice Super C front and rear purchased 1988/89. Used unevenly and irregularly. Somewhat frayed at the edges, probably not that waterproof anymore but I haven't tested. Unlikely to replace.

Also inherited pair of rear Carradice Overlanders of perhaps 1990 vintage. Zips have mostly gone, buckles replaced or missing, still handy for messy jobs.

The thing that never ceases to amaze me is that I can still buy replacement hooks for all of them.

Saddlebags have not fared so well, having seen more usage. Current Carradice Nelson (or possibly Camper) Longflap is probably late 90's with some rub holes in the bottom from sitting on the rear rack. Its pre-loved Super C replacement is hanging in the garage waiting for those holes to wear bigger.

Bar bags are the work of the devil, my '88 Super C with its strap cut off is home to my power drill and will never be put on a bike again.
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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby Greystoke » 29 Jun 2020, 6:56am

I have a full set of front, rear, handlebar bag and stuff sack all Karrimor in green with yellow reflective strips and yellowy greenish straps from the mid 80's still used and still in good condition.

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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby tatanab » 29 Jun 2020, 7:23am

1972 I was given a Carradice Campers Longflap for Christmas. Until about 2015 it was only used for touring, so about 4 weeks a year. Then it was downgraded to day use because it was not holding a reproofing very well, and a new version was bought. Hence that bag has survived almost 50 years of use so far, with a fair few to come.

A bag that is used every day is a different matter. I found that my smaller Carradice bags, usually a Nelson, lasted "only" 25 years of daily use. The side pockets would develop holes from tools poking at them, the cotton ties in the centre would rot, and the canvas itself would rot or wear holes.

Conclusion - seldom used items last a lot longer than those used every day, but 25 years of daily use is pretty good value for money.

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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby Oldjohnw » 29 Jun 2020, 7:40am

My 20 year old unnamed dirt cheap pair from Halfords which I've just put on Freecycle are positive youngsters, it seems.
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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby roberts8 » 29 Jun 2020, 8:03am

I had a set of karrimor kalahari panniers and barbag in the 80s. The barbag frayed and was replaced by karimmor, it went again ten years later and replaced with caradice. The panniers are still in use but without the bungee cords.

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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby ChrisButch » 29 Jun 2020, 8:13am

Atlhough the panniers themselves have long since departed, I still use for various jobs around the garden the unique double bungee cords with clip which came with my mid-1970s Karrimor panniers.

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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby eileithyia » 29 Jun 2020, 9:12am

Camper Longflap bought in '78
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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby Oldjohnw » 29 Jun 2020, 9:27am

So there's a good chance that my recently purchased Carradice Junior should see me through.
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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby Bmblbzzz » 29 Jun 2020, 9:51am

Some impressively long-lasting luggage. It's no surprise to me that most is Carradice with some Karrimor, for a few reasons. It would be interesting to see how many answers come back Ortlieb in 20 years' time (my guess would be quite a lot). It's a great shame what's happened to Karrimor, Carradice deserve a big vote of appreciation for sticking with decent quality at non-exorbitant prices.

My personal answer is a pair of Agus from IIRC 2004. Although I gave them to someone a few years ago, who used them daily for a while but hasn't been cycling for some time due to an accident. In any case, positive youngsters compared to many here.

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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby mercalia » 29 Jun 2020, 10:51am

The new ones
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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby Oldjohnw » 29 Jun 2020, 11:19am

Bmblbzzz wrote:Some impressively long-lasting luggage. It's no surprise to me that most is Carradice with some Karrimor, for a few reasons. It would be interesting to see how many answers come back Ortlieb in 20 years' time (my guess would be quite a lot). It's a great shame what's happened to Karrimor, Carradice deserve a big vote of appreciation for sticking with decent quality at non-exorbitant prices.

My personal answer is a pair of Agus from IIRC 2004. Although I gave them to someone a few years ago, who used them daily for a while but hasn't been cycling for some time due to an accident. In any case, positive youngsters compared to many here.



My current panniers are AGU as you can get a joined pair and I needed that as I have a battery on my rack. I also wanted waterproof. I have been delighted. They are not shiny polyurethane but treated cotton.
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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby RobC » 29 Jun 2020, 11:41am

This somewhat frayed and repaired carradice handlebar bag from the 1940s is still doing sterling service for me, though admittedly not daily.
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Re: Oldest Still Serving Panniers/Saddle Bag

Postby mercalia » 29 Jun 2020, 12:09pm

RobC wrote:This somewhat frayed and repaired carradice handlebar bag from the 1940s is still doing sterling service for me, though admittedly not daily. 133B2C91-C96B-4349-9FB7-4941016625C9.jpeg


thats bad. You should send it to them to put in a museum and maybe they will send you a new one out of pity :wink: