Are DT Swiss PR1600 a good upgrade from a Mavic Aksium

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Rilkal47
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Are DT Swiss PR1600 a good upgrade from a Mavic Aksium

Postby Rilkal47 » 13 Jul 2020, 2:45pm

Hi Everyone,

I am looking to replace the Mavic Aksiums that came installed on my bike and these caught my eye, is it a bargain or a con?

From
https://shop.mavic.com/en-gb/aksium-dis ... #1028=3283

to
https://www.merlincycles.com/dt-swiss-p ... 36934.html

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Re: Are DT Swiss PR1600 a good upgrade from a Mavic Aksium

Postby iandusud » 13 Jul 2020, 5:35pm

The DT Swiss wheels are considerably lighter and replacement rims are available. I have a pair of Dicut 22 wheels (rim brake) which have proved very reliable and I will be rebuilding the rear one this winter with a new rim. However if I was thinking of buying a new pair of wheels I think I would look to these people. https://scribecycling.co.uk/collections ... ibe-race-d (I'm assuming you need disc wheels from the link you sent).
These wheels come in at a very respectable weight and replacement rims and bearings are readily available. Price £370
For me it's a no brainer as I'd much rather support an independent British firm than some vast multi-national.

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Re: Are DT Swiss PR1600 a good upgrade from a Mavic Aksium

Postby Rilkal47 » 13 Jul 2020, 7:48pm

iandusud wrote:The DT Swiss wheels are considerably lighter and replacement rims are available. I have a pair of Dicut 22 wheels (rim brake) which have proved very reliable and I will be rebuilding the rear one this winter with a new rim. However if I was thinking of buying a new pair of wheels I think I would look to these people. https://scribecycling.co.uk/collections ... ibe-race-d (I'm assuming you need disc wheels from the link you sent).
These wheels come in at a very respectable weight and replacement rims and bearings are readily available. Price £370
For me it's a no brainer as I'd much rather support an independent British firm than some vast multi-national.


Huh, those are way cheaper and have a load of good reviews.

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Re: Are DT Swiss PR1600 a good upgrade from a Mavic Aksium

Postby iandusud » 14 Jul 2020, 1:49pm

Rilkal47 wrote:
iandusud wrote:The DT Swiss wheels are considerably lighter and replacement rims are available. I have a pair of Dicut 22 wheels (rim brake) which have proved very reliable and I will be rebuilding the rear one this winter with a new rim. However if I was thinking of buying a new pair of wheels I think I would look to these people. https://scribecycling.co.uk/collections ... ibe-race-d (I'm assuming you need disc wheels from the link you sent).
These wheels come in at a very respectable weight and replacement rims and bearings are readily available. Price £370
For me it's a no brainer as I'd much rather support an independent British firm than some vast multi-national.


Huh, those are way cheaper and have a load of good reviews.


Like I said a no-brainer.

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Re: Are DT Swiss PR1600 a good upgrade from a Mavic Aksium

Postby rmurphy195 » 17 Jul 2020, 11:48am

Isn't the merlin Cysles product a bolt-through?
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Re: Are DT Swiss PR1600 a good upgrade from a Mavic Aksium

Postby The utility cyclist » 17 Jul 2020, 12:46pm

rmurphy195 wrote:Isn't the merlin Cysles product a bolt-through?

Does it matter?
I rode as a test off road a pair of American Classic 420s (disc) with quick release, nothing wrong with them whatsoever, the 'talk' from people like Keith Bontrager et al regards flexing and pad/rotor contact, sure, if you're absolutely hammering it, that might be a tiny problem, maybe on a downhill bike you'd consider bolt through more of a requirement, but for a road bike, why?

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Re: Are DT Swiss PR1600 a good upgrade from a Mavic Aksium

Postby iandriver » 17 Jul 2020, 5:35pm

rmurphy195 wrote:Isn't the merlin Cysles product a bolt-through?


The aksiums linked are bolt through. DT Swiss usually come with thru axle to qr adaptors.
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Re: Are DT Swiss PR1600 a good upgrade from a Mavic Aksium

Postby Rilkal47 » 18 Jul 2020, 5:17pm

iandriver wrote:
rmurphy195 wrote:Isn't the merlin Cysles product a bolt-through?


The aksiums linked are bolt through. DT Swiss usually come with thru axle to qr adaptors.


Would this cause an issue?

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Re: Are DT Swiss PR1600 a good upgrade from a Mavic Aksium

Postby iandriver » 19 Jul 2020, 4:06pm

No, you just leave the adaptors off if you don't have qrs and don't need them.
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Re: Are DT Swiss PR1600 a good upgrade from a Mavic Aksium

Postby John_S » 20 Jul 2020, 2:29pm

Hi Rilkal47,

Whilst you’re looking for new wheels yes it’s definitely great if you can support a British company like Scribe and if you also want additional options also look at Hope Wheels and Hunt Wheels.

But at the same time don’t rule out a bespoke wheel builder. It may well turn out to be something within your budget and you’d be talking to a wheel builder and getting something tailored to your requirements. For something about this process see the link below:-

https://singletrackworld.com/gritcx/2019/02/06/first-look-custom-gravel-wheels-from-sharp-precision-wheels/

And for some wheel builders see links below for just two examples but there will be lots more around:-

https://sharpwheels.co.uk/

Or

https://www.ryanbuildswheels.co.uk/

Good luck finding the right wheels for you!

John