A mask in your bike bag?

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Tangled Metal
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Re: A mask in your bike bag?

Postby Tangled Metal » 30 Jul 2020, 1:06pm

The classic innate rights argument has been used! Right out of the usa anti maskers playbook. Well I have news for you that a shop is private property, if you want you go on private property but they insist on you wearing a mask then you wear your mask or you could be asked to leave. Failure to do so when requested could result in the store calling the police.

You have no right to be on private property without the authority to do so. That is where the enforcement if it happens comes from. I really hope you get shown that legal situation first hand one day mr TUC.

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Re: A mask in your bike bag?

Postby Bmblbzzz » 30 Jul 2020, 2:40pm

The trouble with every 'classic innate rights' argument is that it fails to suggest a solution when my 'innate rights' conflict with yours. Other than 'suck it up, loser.' A few of those who use this argument may even not be aware of that, but only a few.

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Re: A mask in your bike bag?

Postby David9694 » 30 Jul 2020, 3:58pm

Bmblbzzz wrote:The trouble with every 'classic innate rights' argument is that it fails to suggest a solution when my 'innate rights' conflict with yours. Other than 'suck it up, loser.' A few of those who use this argument may even not be aware of that, but only a few.


As had been said, the shop owner’s right to not to let you in/serve you/ ask you to leave is top of the tree here.
I just thought in starting this thread in these warm days carrying a buff to serve as a mask would be sensible, should you need or want to get something from a shop on a ride.

I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition!

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Re: A mask in your bike bag?

Postby mjr » 30 Jul 2020, 5:02pm

David9694 wrote:I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition!

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Our chief weapon is surprise... and masks!
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Re: A mask in your bike bag?

Postby CliveyT » 30 Jul 2020, 5:17pm

mjr wrote:
David9694 wrote:I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition!

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Our chief weapon is surprise... and masks!

I would say
"Bring on the comfy saddle"

but this thread has got heated already so I don't want to raise a really contentious issue

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Re: A mask in your bike bag?

Postby rmurphy195 » 30 Jul 2020, 5:28pm

Keep mine in my shirt pocket, keep hand gel too in my pocket or on the bike.

Quite happy to wear a mask while having a haircut earlier today (though boy it did get warm in there!). Hairdresser also wearing one of those perspex face coverings. Can't be too careful in my view.

Also happy to leave my name and phone no. in case needed for track and trace.

I suspect the anti - xxxx brigade consists mainly, or wholly, of people who haven't been affected by Covid and don't know anyone who has, or who had it mildly and thinks that's OK. It isn't, I have a relative who had it mildly at the beginning (she's a doctor's receptionist). Just come out of hospital after emergency treatment for a Covid-related "knock-on", will be on medication for the rest of her life and still having difficulty breathing during recovery from the procedure.

Just something to think about, in case you were getting complacent.
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Re: A mask in your bike bag?

Postby reohn2 » 30 Jul 2020, 5:30pm

Tangled Metal wrote:The classic innate rights argument has been used! Right out of the usa anti maskers playbook. Well I have news for you that a shop is private property, if you want you go on private property but they insist on you wearing a mask then you wear your mask or you could be asked to leave. Failure to do so when requested could result in the store calling the police.

You have no right to be on private property without the authority to do so. That is where the enforcement if it happens comes from. I really hope you get shown that legal situation first hand one day mr TUC.

We're agreeing again :wink:
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Re: A mask in your bike bag?

Postby reohn2 » 30 Jul 2020, 5:31pm

David9694 wrote: .........I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition!

One should always expect the unexpected :wink:
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Re: A mask in your bike bag?

Postby Tangled Metal » 30 Jul 2020, 9:57pm

reohn2 wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:The classic innate rights argument has been used! Right out of the usa anti maskers playbook. Well I have news for you that a shop is private property, if you want you go on private property but they insist on you wearing a mask then you wear your mask or you could be asked to leave. Failure to do so when requested could result in the store calling the police.

You have no right to be on private property without the authority to do so. That is where the enforcement if it happens comes from. I really hope you get shown that legal situation first hand one day mr TUC.

We're agreeing again :wink:

I'm starting to enjoy agreeing with you. Can we have Corbyn back I want to see if supporting his politics is also fun. You don't know until you try!! :lol:

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Re: A mask in your bike bag?

Postby reohn2 » 30 Jul 2020, 10:35pm

Tangled Metal wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:The classic innate rights argument has been used! Right out of the usa anti maskers playbook. Well I have news for you that a shop is private property, if you want you go on private property but they insist on you wearing a mask then you wear your mask or you could be asked to leave. Failure to do so when requested could result in the store calling the police.

You have no right to be on private property without the authority to do so. That is where the enforcement if it happens comes from. I really hope you get shown that legal situation first hand one day mr TUC.

We're agreeing again :wink:

I'm starting to enjoy agreeing with you. Can we have Corbyn back I want to see if supporting his politics is also fun. You don't know until you try!! :lol:

Well not wanting to get on a political drift but,one only need take a lok at what we've got to realise there's been terrible mistake made :shock: :?
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