Ginnels, and snickets

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Ginnels, and snickets

Postby nirakaro » 3 Oct 2020, 4:06pm

I was riding along a ginnel (a narrow passage between buildings) yesterday, and wondered, is that just a northern term? In Cumbria it's called a snicket. Does it have other names elsewhere?

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Paulatic » 3 Oct 2020, 4:11pm

I’ve only ever heard ginnel, wynd or alley
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Jdsk » 3 Oct 2020, 4:12pm

EDITED: Crossed with above.

Both of those are northern.

Also wynd, twitten and twitchel. Alley where I grew up.

Wiktionary has a few more:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Thesaurus:alley#English

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Rod Goodfellow » 3 Oct 2020, 5:19pm

In Sheffield in 1940s known as a jennel

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Stradageek » 3 Oct 2020, 5:20pm

My daughter uses a Ginnel to get to her back door in Sheffield, if it were here in Northampton it would be a 'Jitty'

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Tangled Metal » 3 Oct 2020, 5:20pm

It's not a northern thing but a local thing as in local to where they use it. I lived in West Lancashire South of Preston and we had never heard of such terms. I only learnt of ginnel after starting high school in Blackburn. Both are Northern but only one of them actually had such thoroughfares for local terms to develop around.

Put simply you need the thing to be common in an area for a local term to develop I reckon. Do southern towns and cities have ginnels in as common a frequency as those Northern areas with their own versions of that word?

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Cyril Haearn » 3 Oct 2020, 5:34pm

There is a book about The Snickelways of York
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby nirakaro » 3 Oct 2020, 5:39pm

How wide can it be, and still be a ginnel? I think of an alley as something that you could, at a pinch, drive a car along; the ginnels that I know are definitely a good bit narrower than that.

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Oldjohnw » 3 Oct 2020, 5:41pm

Ginnel, vennel in Borders/N Northumberland.
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby keyboardmonkey » 3 Oct 2020, 6:05pm

Alleys and ginnels don’t make the cut; I like a good tenfoot. How about you?

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Paulatic » 3 Oct 2020, 6:18pm

I’d of thought a vennel too wide to be a ginnel ?
I was thinking of the Vennel in Dumfries then I looked it up and you’re right it can also be an alley as well as something similar to a loaning.
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby axel_knutt » 4 Oct 2020, 12:51am

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby RodT » 4 Oct 2020, 7:49am

In Cornwall we have ‘opes’. Sometimes we have ‘igh ‘opes. Sorry.

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby mumbojumbo » 4 Oct 2020, 7:50am

In Hampshire called backwacks.(In Surrey "weironeputsbins"

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby sjs » 4 Oct 2020, 8:45am

Rod Goodfellow wrote:In Sheffield in 1940s known as a jennel


East Midlands, or at least Derby/Nottingham area, they're gitties.