Post-Brexit - buying bike parts abroad . . (incl. Rose/DutchBikeParts)

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wjhall wrote: 5 May 2021, 12:00pm
wrote:
I’d have thought that at one time, but I’ve had a bottle dynamo on my Brompton for years and its worked faultlessly, even in the rain. .
I have been using bottle dynamos for forty five years, so am fully familiar with their many failure modes, hence my remark. They have a niche in bikes with brazed on dynamo mounts, or, paradoxically in my case, old bikes without mounts, where it is possible that being cheaper than a dynamo hub front wheel makes sense. Given the declining availability in the UK market, and the higher prices than abroad, it is probably not wise to commit to a bottle dynamo based system without careful thought.

What I do not have, of course is a matching list of all the faults of hub dynamos...
In fairness my Super Galaxy has a cheap hub dynamo and it is perfect. Does a lot more miles than the Brommie too
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Basta / axa trio* on ebay from London seller

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381344426259 ... Vt3nl
*has metal bearings cf duo which has plastic bearings. Basta/ Axa seem one of the last big names making bottles.
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Does anyone have recent experiences to share, please?

Thanks

Jonathan
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Jdsk wrote: 17 May 2021, 8:38am Does anyone have recent experiences to share, please?

Thanks

Jonathan
Yes.
Specialist company (Tadpole Recumbent side-pod bag manufacturer not available in UK). After 31 Dec 2020 they put up "Unable to ship to UK - Temporary" whilst they got to grips with the tax/procedures/etc. Then they sorted it out and removed the web site notice. Then a month later I ordered <£135. All shipped same day via DHL but where previously DHL was pretty quick:
  • MAY 11 7:23 AM Out for delivery with the courier
  • MAY 11 3:20 AM Arrived in your region
  • MAY 10 3:55 PM Arrived at terminal
  • MAY 8 1:51 PM Inspection by customs
  • MAY 8 1:50 PM Processed at the sorting center
  • MAY 8 1:50 PM Arrived at inbound gateway
  • MAY 7 1:18 PM Released by customs
  • MAY 6 1:24 AM Ready for final customs check
  • MAY 4 8:02 AM Departure from the international sorting center
  • MAY 3 8:34 PM Released by customs
  • MAY 3 7:24 PM In clearance at customs
  • MAY 3 5:37 PM Processed at the sorting center
  • APR 30 6:42 PM Ready to send to the sorting center
No additional bills on delivery - main surprise it how long it took to travel NL to me (all those customs delays).

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Very interesting. Where was VAT applied?
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I bought a running accessory online last week that stated it shipped from the Netherlands for Europe, and from the USA for everywhere else.

VAT was charged online during the checkout process and I waited on shipment notification. That came through a couple of hours later and showed it shipping from Boulder in Colorado!

Item arrived in two days with nothing else to pay.
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... wrote: Basta / axa trio* on ebay from London seller...
Thank you, I had already bought an Axa-HR from a UK supplier, to go with my lifetime stock of rubber rings.

In fact Freemans in Norwich have the Trio for about GBP 15.21 delivered:

https://www.freemanscycles.co.uk/bicycl ... acket.html
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francovendee wrote: 18 May 2021, 7:21am Very interesting. Where was VAT applied?
The order total was €86 (incl €15 shipping) and incl VAT which was collected by the vendor (in NL). Delivery, whilst slow, was routine nothing different from a UK shipment delivery.

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Prendas: "Time for Change at Prendas Ciclismo":
https://www.prendas.co.uk/blogs/news/time-for-change

"Since taking over the running of the business from Mick in 2017, the business has had to battle a number of adverse effects from the divisive BREXIT vote in 2016, many of which hit our bottom line hard.

"This has meant that compromises had to be made, but most disappointing of all, it has also resulted in having to say goodbye to some loyal members of staff.

"Whilst the COVID pandemic has hit many businesses and families very hard indeed, it has given us a unique opportunity to take stock of our situation, and rethink our future."


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Jdsk wrote: 15 Jun 2021, 7:27am Prendas: "Time for Change at Prendas Ciclismo":
https://www.prendas.co.uk/blogs/news/time-for-change
Jonathan
Right thread?
Prendas are based in Dorset, hardly buying from abroad.
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When Prendas wrote:

"Since taking over the running of the business from Mick in 2017, the business has had to battle a number of adverse effects from the divisive BREXIT vote in 2016, many of which hit our bottom line hard."

I concluded that those adverse effects included the new difficulties of importing their products from the EU, and especially Italy. That's the subject of this thread.

But they do say that there is more than one issue caused by the vote. Any suggestions what the others could be?

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Perhaps they also used to export to the EU, but we know the problems that other small businesses are having in that area.
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Jdsk wrote: 15 Jun 2021, 12:53pm I concluded that those adverse effects included the new difficulties of importing their products from the EU, and especially Italy. That's the subject of this thread.

But they do say that there is more than one issue caused by the vote. Any suggestions what the others could be?

Jonathan
I think you're wrong on all counts.
The subject of this thread is clearly about how we as consumers would continue to buy from EU retailers, the OP helpfully named a couple of them in the title. It's not about the business effects of Brexit, there's numerous other threads for that.
Even if this thread was about Prendas's business decisions, we don't know the detail. I doubt buying from Italy is much of an issue, if the product is sufficiently of EU origin then it'll be tariff free under the limited but much crowed about free trade agreement. Some of their garments are made by Santini, still supplying to the UK and Worldwide, so why do you think they would have a problem supplying Prendas? Most clothing of course isn't of EU origin, buying from Italy now will be no different from buying outside the EU was pre Brexit and many small suppliers have managed that fine.
I think Trev has probably made a better guess and that their main issue would be in supplying outside the UK. Maybe combine that with an uncertain exchange rate, and as they say it became time to look at the options.
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SRAM stopped making IGH hubs and spares in 2017, so parts are drying up. Most of the remaining spares are in Europe, including things like bearing cages and axle keys (which often snap on a T3, immobilising the bike). I've had to get parts shipped via a contact in the Netherlands, because the only shop with a decent supply of stuff (Das Zweirad in Germany) will no longer post to the UK. As recently as two years ago, I was buying parts from them with no issues.

Another rarity, if you're trying to keep a mid-2000s Brompton going without major investment, is SRAM axle nuts. Brompton have stopped making them and, again, most of the remaining stock is in Europe. I can buy a chain tensioner nut from France but shipping is 25 euros now, because we go in an expensive "rest of the world" category.
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