Post-Brexit - buying bike parts abroad . . (incl. Rose/DutchBikeParts)

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slowster wrote:.......The size of the UK economy is irrelevant. It is the size of the UK market for the particular products that they sell to UK customers that matters.......


This is exactly the problem - the market for quality and specific parts for utility cycling in the UK is small. It's bad news for many many forum members but also for growing active transport here too
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Had a delivery from XXcycle (no, it's not a porno bookstore) in France yesterday, no unexpected charges, no problem. Rose are becoming an outlier now.
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rogerzilla wrote:Had a delivery from XXcycle (no, it's not a porno bookstore) in France yesterday, no unexpected charges, no problem. Rose are becoming an outlier now.

Manufacturer I need or order some bike bags from is still "...temporary not able to ship our products to the UK. Apologies for any inconvenience.". Other day I was unable to find an outdoor shop that had what I was after and would ship to the UK. And deliveries from Sigg (even for orders placed shortly before new year) still not shipping.

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rogerzilla wrote:Had a delivery from XXcycle (no, it's not a porno bookstore) in France yesterday, no unexpected charges, no problem. Rose are becoming an outlier now.

must say have never heard of them.
They registered themselves for UK VAT and charged it to you before shipment?
(and made sure you were only charged one lot of VAT?)
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rogerzilla wrote:Had a delivery from XXcycle (no, it's not a porno bookstore) in France yesterday, no unexpected charges, no problem. Rose are becoming an outlier now.

Can't really say that Rose are becoming an outlier just because the shop you bought from is shipping to the UK.
Plenty of suppliers other than Rose are still not shipping to UK.
A non cycling company I used for photographic prints (zor.com), just confirmed to me last week that they are no longer shipping to UK, and have no intention of doing so again.
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Companies like rose are going to have to update their systems for the new related intra eu VAT rules, as thelawnet researched upthread, so I expect it is more cost effective for them to update said systems for the related UK Vat rules etc at the same time.

For same reasons an ebay portal might be an option.

Jumping to conclusions before then seems premature to me.
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Checks on goods imported from the EU have been abandoned until 2022.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-11/britain-delays-brexit-import-checks-to-avert-supply-disruption?sref=yMmXm5Iy

I found the official updates on GOV.UK yesterday but can't now... anyone?

Could the experts advise on how this affects small parcels and VAT, please.

Thanks

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Not at all. This is about lorries and containers.
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I still get regular emails from Bike24, having bought stuff from them in the past. Since the new year every item I have looked at has said it wasn't available to be shipped to the UK. On a whim, I messaged them to ask about whether they would be shipping goods to the UK & today got this reply

Bike24 wrote:Dear Mr H

as of today, due to COVID-19 restrictions and Brexit, we are no longer able to ship our goods to the United Kingdom.

We are deeply sorry for this inconvenience and are working on an alternative solution to restore regular shipping to the UK.

We thank you for your understanding.

Stay safe and healthy!

Best regards,

Exxxx Dxxxxxx

Bike24 Service Team


We shall have to see what & when the solution is sorted.
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A massive benefit to EU companies and discriminating against UK companies. EU companies can get their goods into the UK really easily whilst UK companies face checks, delays, paperwork if they try and get their goods into the EU. And all thanks to the UK Government incapability and incompetence.

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The official notice:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-border-operating-model#history
and Ministerial statement:
https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-statements/detail/2021-03-11/hcws841

But I still think that I saw more detail yesterday on GOV.UK...

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Psamathe wrote:

A massive benefit to EU companies and discriminating against UK companies. EU companies can get their goods into the UK really easily whilst UK companies face checks, delays, paperwork if they try and get their goods into the EU. And all thanks to the UK Government incapability and incompetence.

Ian

How about criticising the EU fir requiring more checks than necessary? Presumably the Uk will have to consider using the complaints procedure.
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SA_SA_SA wrote:
Psamathe wrote:

A massive benefit to EU companies and discriminating against UK companies. EU companies can get their goods into the UK really easily whilst UK companies face checks, delays, paperwork if they try and get their goods into the EU. And all thanks to the UK Government incapability and incompetence.

Ian

How about criticising the EU fir requiring more checks than necessary? Presumably the Uk will have to consider using the complaints procedure.

The issue is into GB not into NI. As I understand it th EU does not determine what checks we make on incoming goods.

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SA_SA_SA wrote:
Psamathe wrote:

A massive benefit to EU companies and discriminating against UK companies. EU companies can get their goods into the UK really easily whilst UK companies face checks, delays, paperwork if they try and get their goods into the EU. And all thanks to the UK Government incapability and incompetence.

How about criticising the EU fir requiring more checks than necessary? Presumably the Uk will have to consider using the complaints procedure.

The EU rules are well known. The UK was involved in developing nearly all of them as a Member State. We chose to become a third country. We agreed a treaty a few months ago. We passed it into domestic law. One party's view of what's "necessary" has no legal weight, and would immediately be thrown out as a complaint with our signature highlighted. If we don't want to trade in line with the treaty provisions we shouldn't have agreed them... that's what sovereignty means.

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