Tier 4 exercise limits

[Oldjohnw]

Less than three miles away from me people were able to meet up with family in a private garden this last weekend.

[Jdsk]

I am in the Bolton area, Greater Manchester / Lancashire.

Roadmap for England, next date for planned changes is 29 March:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518

Jonathan

[KTHSullivan]

Just tell the police officer/PCSO that your bike ride is in support of today's populist cause. However for a belt and braces excuse, especially on an all day ride may I suggest you listen to the BBC news at midday in case the said cause has changed.

[wjhall]

Given that the regulations set no limits to exercise, it is not clear how much further anyone could wish to be allowed to go.

I was probably wrong to suggest earlier that bike rides had to finish by midnight. We are actually back with the same general principle as in the first phase a year ago, not allowed to be away from home without reasonable excuse. It was the second phase coming in about a month later that had the general principle of not being away overnight without reasonable excuse.

Exercise being defined, without limit, as a reasonable excuse, you can ride through the night, and on and on through the next night, and the one after and after that. The only problem is that exercise is not listed as a reason why accommodation that might be open can admit you, so that if you begin to tire you will have to sleep under a hedge.

[Jdsk]

AIUI in England the guidance on exercise is still "you should not travel outside your local area".

Jonathan

[Sweep]

Given that the regulations set no limits to exercise, it is not clear how much further anyone could wish to be allowed to go.

I was probably wrong to suggest earlier that bike rides had to finish by midnight. We are actually back with the same general principle as in the first phase a year ago, not allowed to be away from home without reasonable excuse. It was the second phase coming in about a month later that had the general principle of not being away overnight without reasonable excuse.

Exercise being defined, without limit, as a reasonable excuse, you can ride through the night, and on and on through the next night, and the one after and after that. The only problem is that exercise is not listed as a reason why accommodation that might be open can admit you, so that if you begin to tire you will have to sleep under a hedge.

I had the idea that you aren't even supposed to sleep under a hedge at the mo,
Come April 12 I plan to do a swift freecamp somewhere.
I can imagine campsites being pretty hellish for the rest of the year.

[wjhall]

[quote="]AIUI in England the guidance on exercise is still "you should not travel outside your local area".

[/quote]

Surely we have been round and round and round the difference between law and guidance. The mystery of why the government allowed the issue of guidance before the regulations that turned out not to be guidance but an attempt to pretend the regulations were other than they were, written by someone who does not appear to have read the regulations is interesting but since ministers have back tracked on it, in particular the secretary of state saying long cycle rides are allowed, and the ministry writing to Cycling UK saying much the same and adding that you can drive to the start of the cycle ride, how the advice got out is something that need not be of current concern.


There is a similar issue in Wales with advice to stay within five miles that the council leader himself has said is only advice. Worse, he has said that if you live in the countryside you can go further, which is even more illogical and also unfair. People choose to live in the country because it is nice, granting them additional privileges over those crammed into towns because they can afford better housing is stupid, but what do you expect in one of the last Labour governments sentimental socialist pseudo-nations.

[Syd]

AIUI in England the guidance on exercise is still "you should not travel outside your local area".

Jonathan

Similar advice still exists in Scotland. You should not travel outside your council area though there is an allowance to travel up to 5 miles outside your area for exercise that starts and finishes in the same spot.

[TrevA]

AIUI in England the guidance on exercise is still "you should not travel outside your local area".

Jonathan

Similar advice still exists in Scotland. You should not travel outside your council area though there is an allowance to travel up to 5 miles outside your area for exercise that starts and finishes in the same spot.

Is that Parish, Borough or County Council?

[Syd]

AIUI in England the guidance on exercise is still "you should not travel outside your local area".

Jonathan

Similar advice still exists in Scotland. You should not travel outside your council area though there is an allowance to travel up to 5 miles outside your area for exercise that starts and finishes in the same spot.

Is that Parish, Borough or County Council?

The guidance is written as follows.

* Outdoor socialising, recreation and exercise can start and finish at a place in your local authority area (or up to 5 miles from its boundary). For exercise, you should travel no further than you need to reach to a safe, non-crowded place. *

These local authority areas have maps available.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/local ... -scotland/

Parish councils, for example, do not exist in Scotland.

[thirdcrank]

Surely we have been round and round and round the difference between law and guidance.

Quite!

[thirdcrank]

Just tell the police officer/PCSO that your bike ride is in support of today's populist cause. However for a belt and braces excuse, especially on an all day ride may I suggest you listen to the BBC news at midday in case the said cause has changed.

There's many a true word ....

Coronavirus: Protests should be allowed during lockdown, say 60 MPs and peers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56466291

[Psamathe]

Just tell the police officer/PCSO that your bike ride is in support of today's populist cause. However for a belt and braces excuse, especially on an all day ride may I suggest you listen to the BBC news at midday in case the said cause has changed.

There's many a true word ....

Coronavirus: Protests should be allowed during lockdown, say 60 MPs and peers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56466291

I really don't know what I think about protests - I can see important considerations both sides of the case.

When you have such a bunch of fools running the country to close down protests might suit their dictatorial tendencies but when they ignore petitions, Parliament, pretty well everybody then protest becomes something of a "last resort". But then to ave an unknown number of people turning up to a limited space in the middle of a dangerous pandemic - might be almost a bad a spreader event as Cheltenham Races. In many ways a liberty vs safety - which under the circumstances, with a trustworthy Government would not be such a challenge. But with a totally untrustworthy Government ...

I'll be watching any further discussion on this to help me form an opinion.

Ian

[DaveReading]

But then to ave an unknown number of people turning up to a limited space in the middle of a dangerous pandemic - might be almost a bad a spreader event as Cheltenham Races.

Unlikely, unless having a beer tent is now a feature of organised protests.

[KTHSullivan]

But then to ave an unknown number of people turning up to a limited space in the middle of a dangerous pandemic - might be almost a bad a spreader event as Cheltenham Races.

Unlikely, unless having a beer tent is now a feature of organised protests.

I like the cut of your jib Sir, possible free beer to protest. Where do I sign up.