MIB2020 wrote:Hi Paul, just tried AllTrails but it seems I am unable to download a route to send to my Garmin without payment.
Will try the other one you mentioned next.
I'm definitely a free member, assume you joined their site and logged in?
I use a laptop with Windows 10 to 'plan' - 'create map' - 'save map' before 'download'. I've added a screen shot of how I 'download' my saved map as below, my 'red arrow' highlights the 'three dots', click on those dots, 'download map' and the 'download route' box will open; I personally save as ' Garmin course TCX' especially if I have made waypoints, this method means on my Garmin 810
as I reach the waypoint I get an audible tone alert in addition to a visual description tab pop up
After 'Download' to my computer I then 'Upload' it to my 810 via USB and genuine Garmin lead (make sure it is the genuine lead, copies that seem to fit perfectly may not transfer the data fully) and not via Bluetooth. In theory a saved course on your computer can be imported into Garmin Connect (GC), but I have found when you then send that to the unit via Bluetooth they are inclined to not always transfer the data as created and be less stable in use and often crash during navigation. The only courses I send to the unit from GC have been created in GC, I've had my 810 Garmin since 2013 and although GC has improved it has been consistently behind other free course planning software.
It is a shame that GC route planning is so poor, as I referenced upthread going off course to stay legal at roundabouts and one way streets can also cause the unit to crash; I live in a London Suburb so that is quite a common issue for me when riding locally. Back in 2013 they made a big thing about Bluetooth connectivity which was free feature with GC and normally a paid for feature with other route planning sites; with my 'Sherlock Smith Deerstalker Helmet' on I am deducing that's what "MIB2020" maybe referring to when he mentions “I am unable to download a route to send to my Garmin without payment”?
Over the years what has personally worked for me to achieve reliability and stability is to download the course from whatever site I created it on and then uploading via USB; I never use Bluetooth or upload it to another site before sending it to the unit. Even if it is a workaround to upload a well planned course which was then stable enough for my liking; I wouldn't need to do if Garmin Connect route planning was as good as it should be; with their financial clout it has always baffled me that it isn't!!!