Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

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Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby ndcameron » 15 Jun 2009, 6:09pm

I'd appreciate any information on a Dawes "Don Juan" tourer, such as the age of the bike, model number and market volume. I've had the bike for about 20 years.
Some pictures are attached.

Any help greatly appreciated
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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby eileithyia » 15 Jun 2009, 7:59pm

Can we assume the frame is much older than 20 years, as that is an old head badge.
Have you contacted Dawes themselves and asked for info, presumably there is a frame number somewhere?
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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby djnotts » 15 Jun 2009, 8:40pm

eileithyia wrote:Can we assume the frame is much older than 20 years, as that is an old head badge.
Have you contacted Dawes themselves and asked for info, presumably there is a frame number somewhere?


Defitely looks older than late '80s - e.g. lugs (very nice!) and brakes. At a guess, at least 30 years old. And I'd be very surprised if Dawes in its current form/ownership has ANY records that far back.

Looked closer: cottered cranks (?) and 5 speed. 1960s?

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby ndcameron » 15 Jun 2009, 9:05pm

I contacted Dawes, but unfortunately they no longer have any information as all of their catalogues etc were lost in a factory fire in the late 90’s. Dawes suggested a post to the CTC forum.

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby hubgearfreak » 15 Jun 2009, 9:19pm

have the cranks got any markings on them at all?

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby djnotts » 15 Jun 2009, 9:34pm

Could also try asking in bikeradar Forum - road - special interests. And perhaps retrobike - road bikes section.

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby hubgearfreak » 18 Jun 2009, 6:22pm

there's a Don Juan on ebay at the moment 120435375785, it's listed as 1950s

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby Robby » 18 Jun 2009, 9:42pm

I'm old enough to remember these and definitely 50's , Dawes bikes were regarded as "flashy" in those days and not to be considered by serious cyclists !

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby ndcameron » 19 Jun 2009, 6:10pm

Would the centre-pull brakes "Weinmann Vainqueur 999" be consistent with the age of the frame, 50's ?

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby Freddie » 20 Jun 2009, 3:57pm

ndcameron wrote:Would the centre-pull brakes "Weinmann Vainqueur 999" be consistent with the age of the frame, 50's ?


I don't think so, probably a later (70's onwards?) replacement, brakes would likely have been Dawes own, if not Mafac or GB, perhaps...

I'd suggest 50's frame aswell, think I might have seen ads in CTC mags of the time for said bike.

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby fred.b » 20 Jun 2009, 9:45pm

I remember my brother having a Don Juan bought for him when he left school 1955/56.

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby tez » 24 Apr 2011, 11:49am

just joined this forum, saw this post, its a bit late for a for a reply but i had one of these bikes.it was a beauty, metallic blue, alloy drop bars, alloy wheels, alloy crank and it had a 5 speed campag change. the brakes look the same ones as fitted to my bike. I was 14 when i bought this bike, that was in the summer of 1960 it cost 27pounds and was paid for with my double paper round for which i received 1pound a week . I rode this bike every day for 5 years. I hope this sheds a bit more light on this beauty of a bike . TEZ.

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby br00k » 3 Aug 2011, 9:25am

I also just joined the forum so my input may be too late. However, I had a Don Juan in 1957 (?). It was bought for me for passing the 11 plus ( Ok, I was 13 when I got it but my family didn't have much money!). It was in red and white and was the first bike I had ridden with gears - previously I had a Holdsworth fixie given to me by my uncle, but it was way too big for me - yes I know I wish I had kept it til I grew. The Dawes had Campag gears and Weinman brakes and a very small, cutaway Brooks saddle which would give me an injury if I sat on it now. I used it for my 10 mile school run every day until I started work. Then it was given away to someone. Can I have it back please?

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby Kiltie12 » 3 Aug 2011, 7:30pm

djnotts wrote:
eileithyia wrote:Can we assume the frame is much older than 20 years, as that is an old head badge.
Have you contacted Dawes themselves and asked for info, presumably there is a frame number somewhere?


Defitely looks older than late '80s - e.g. lugs (very nice!) and brakes. At a guess, at least 30 years old. And I'd be very surprised if Dawes in its current form/ownership has ANY records that far back.

Looked closer: cottered cranks (?) and 5 speed. 1960s?


My Dawes Galaxy had similar lugs and I got mine in 1979 ,Weinmann centre-pulls and Suntour 10 speed gearing but the badge was not like that so I would say possibly early 1970's or even the 60's 8) Nice bike

Found another one here and a different head badge again...is this one earlier :?:
http://s840.photobucket.com/albums/zz32 ... ON%20JUAN/

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Re: Dawes "Don Juan" tourer

Postby stanmore21 » 17 May 2012, 10:38pm

I've only just seen this site. I bought an identical Dawes Don Juan tourer in 1962 from Ivor J. Clarke in North Harrow.
The frame colour was identical and I can still remember the frame number which was JS 3613.