help improve my hill climbing ability

General cycling advice ( NOT technical ! )
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Postby PW » 13 Jul 2007, 6:50pm

There's an old pro's trick which I've seen attributed to Bernard Hinault:-
You think of someone you hate, REALLY hate, every pedal stroke is a kick in the face, you're jumping on them, grinding them into the road. At the top of the hill the anger's spent & the rider still feels remarkably fresh.
Try it sometime, it works. :wink:
If at first you don't succeed - cheat!!

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Postby montmorency » 16 Jul 2007, 1:20pm

Well, I was trying the "one, two, THREE" trick, mentioned somewhere above, both on the flat and up hills today.

Well, on what is perhaps the steepest hill of my commute, I overtook a Mercian! Yes, just went sailing by.

OK, yes well, its owner had stopped by the side of the road, and was chatting to a mate, but still!


Seriously though, I think the technique does help a bit. Surreal at first, and the waltz-time rhythm breaks the normal pedal "two-step"!

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Postby Mick F » 16 Jul 2007, 1:30pm

In my 'square bashing' days in the RN as young apprentices, we used to stamp our boots every three paces. Great fun when there's a big squad! Even tried ascending: 3 paces, then 4, then 5, then 6 etc. I've often tried the trick when cycling. It doesn't half make the day and the hills go by!
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Postby pete75 » 24 Jul 2007, 3:06pm

reohn2 wrote:The best way to get up hills fast is to keep going up hills, and think "round" when pedlaling
Forgot to mention,you won't go up them fast if your a heavy rider.


Really? Eddie Merckx was a large, heavy guy considerably more so than most of his fellow competitors. He wasn't known for being slow up hills.

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Postby grahamandmiriam » 26 Jul 2007, 9:46pm

How is it going 1 Cog.
Any improvements?

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Postby reohn2 » 26 Jul 2007, 10:20pm

pete75 wrote:
reohn2 wrote:The best way to get up hills fast is to keep going up hills, and think "round" when pedlaling
Forgot to mention,you won't go up them fast if your a heavy rider.


Really? Eddie Merckx was a large, heavy guy considerably more so than most of his fellow competitors. He wasn't known for being slow up hills.



What I was saying is that power to weight ratio is against the heavy rider,though occasionally there will be a good heavy climber, it will only be occaionally.

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Postby montmorency » 26 Jul 2007, 11:31pm

reohn2 wrote:
pete75 wrote:
reohn2 wrote:The best way to get up hills fast is to keep going up hills, and think "round" when pedlaling
Forgot to mention,you won't go up them fast if your a heavy rider.


Really? Eddie Merckx was a large, heavy guy considerably more so than most of his fellow competitors. He wasn't known for being slow up hills.



What I was saying is that power to weight ratio is against the heavy rider,though occasionally there will be a good heavy climber, it will only be occaionally.



hmm...let's think..."good", "heavy", "climber".


Hey, I can tick one out of three! :oops:

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Postby melw1 » 27 Jul 2007, 1:54pm

That 1 2 3 trick works great for me and my daughter - got her speeding up the hills today! Even got me and trailer up too! :)

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Postby Tynan » 31 Jul 2007, 1:12pm

top thread gents, thanks

lower gear, cadence, round and pacing myself for the entire hill and a bit has worked wonders for me, that and some fitness

it seems feeble at the start especially if the hill starts slow but it's great keeping the same pace all the way up and them speeding up at the top

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Postby Mick F » 31 Jul 2007, 8:31pm

We were in Plymouth today. We went by train, down The Tamar Valley Line. "What has this to do with climbing hills on a bike?", I hear you ask.

The stairs up from the platforms to the main concourse were too 'shallow'. The risers are too low. Consequently, I found it difficult to climb the stairs! Me! Me with thighs to die for!

It's all to do with cadence and length of cranks. Climbing stairs is very similar to cycling. Get the stairs and risers right, and I can climb stairs all day. Get them wrong, and I have difficulty.
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Postby montmorency » 2 Aug 2007, 12:33am

Mick F wrote:We were in Plymouth today. We went by train, down The Tamar Valley Line. "What has this to do with climbing hills on a bike?", I hear you ask.

The stairs up from the platforms to the main concourse were too 'shallow'. The risers are too low. Consequently, I found it difficult to climb the stairs! Me! Me with thighs to die for!

It's all to do with cadence and length of cranks. Climbing stairs is very similar to cycling. Get the stairs and risers right, and I can climb stairs all day. Get them wrong, and I have difficulty.




Being charitable, I wonder if they were designed for people carrying heavy luggage (who would have a different "cadence" to people skipping up lightly)?



At the risk of coming over all "German railways are wonderful" yet again, some German stations, I noticed (although sadly not all) had little escalator-type things by the side of stairways, for helping you get heavy luggage up the stairs. I think you might have been able to put your bikes on them too (or at least put your panniers on, although you would need a companion or two to look after the bike then).


Wouldn't it be nice if we had those, or failing that, just a flat ramp that you could wheel a bike up? Wouldn't take much money...just a little thought.




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Postby flash » 2 Aug 2007, 6:35pm

Get a fixed, move to somewhere hilly

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Postby pete75 » 19 Aug 2007, 12:31pm

The answer is simple , you just need to get yourself a pair of legs like these

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Postby Mick F » 19 Aug 2007, 4:43pm

That's me!
Well, perhaps not ....

Actually, have you seen the spokes? Them's is good wheels them's is.
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