1990s Dawes Horizon/Galaxy- Reynolds 531 or 501?

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rmurphy195
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Re: 1990s Dawes Horizon/Galaxy- Reynolds 531 or 501?

Postby rmurphy195 » 6 Feb 2020, 7:53pm

If I remember rightly, the horizon at some time had a mix of 531 and another alloy on different parts of the frame, one for the main triangle, the other for the rear triangle and forks, but not sure which.
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Re: 1990s Dawes Horizon/Galaxy- Reynolds 531 or 501?

Postby RJS » 6 Feb 2020, 10:10pm

Hi Murph195,
first I owned a Sterling, I think it was '96 500 tubes I thought it rode fine, then I bent it :oops: :( next had a 2000? Horizon made in Czechoslovakia, 531 main frame Cro-moly rear triangle, fat seat stays, it was awful :shock:; son had a '98 Galaxy 531 with pencil stays, I believe the last ones made in the UK, I later owned it, it rode really well.
Cheers, Rob.

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Re: 1990s Dawes Horizon/Galaxy- Reynolds 531 or 501?

Postby peetee » 7 Feb 2020, 9:20am

It’s easy to see these Reynolds tubes as a fixed set of eleven pipes and decal bound tightly together that travels from the manufacturer to bike building company to craftsman to frame set. In reality things can be different.
I had reason to question the authenticity of one 531c frame that was built for me by a company in the West Midlands. I was told that, although the tubes were printed with specification info by Reynolds, they were stored in the build room according to their frame position so different types and gauges of chain stay would be stored together. The builders were aware what constituted a ‘set’ but mistakes could be made.
Perhaps even more alarming is what was related to me back in the 80’s by a south coast builder of very highly regarded frames. 653 had just been introduced and Reynolds was keen to see 531 Pro superseded. He was told to use 531 tubes in a 653 build until his stock ran out.
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Re: 1990s Dawes Horizon/Galaxy- Reynolds 531 or 501?

Postby pwa » 7 Feb 2020, 9:30am

I had a 531 ST frameset made by a small outfit in the late 1980s and, frankly, it was quite heavy and with full camping gear it managed to be too flexy. I didn't like it much. So the 531 thing doesn't impress me. I'd be just as happy with 501.

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Re: 1990s Dawes Horizon/Galaxy- Reynolds 531 or 501?

Postby hamster » 7 Feb 2020, 9:37am

Dawes also seem to have swapped tubesets round. I used to own two identical Dawes tandems, one had a 531 transfer, the other 501.

I'm with PWA: does it do the job you want it to, and do it well?
If so, enjoy and forget it. My well-loved and well-travelled tourer uses a very ordinary butted tange low-end MTB frame. I've ridden it for 30 years and it's perfect for my purposes.

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Re: 1990s Dawes Horizon/Galaxy- Reynolds 531 or 501?

Postby rmurphy195 » 10 Feb 2020, 7:25pm

RJS wrote:Hi Murph195,
first I owned a Sterling, I think it was '96 500 tubes I thought it rode fine, then I bent it :oops: :( next had a 2000? Horizon made in Czechoslovakia, 531 main frame Cro-moly rear triangle, fat seat stays, it was awful :shock:; son had a '98 Galaxy 531 with pencil stays, I believe the last ones made in the UK, I later owned it, it rode really well.
Cheers, Rob.


I had a pencil-stayed galaxy, c1990. Carried my son's christmas present home on it - a set of barbell weights. You could feel the frame flexing! You could also see the tips of the front forks flexing slightly soaking up the road shocks.

Still have the frame, sadly now banana-shaped after an argument with a Transit, hanging up in the garage.
Brompton, Condor Heritage, creaky joints and thinning white (formerly grey) hair
""You know you're getting old when it's easier to ride a bike than to get on and off it" - quote from observant jogger !