Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

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Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby graymee » 8 Mar 2013, 3:22pm

I saw this link
http://www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/1027 ... nce_route/
on Facebook.

They're on about groups of irresponsible cyclists causing mayhem. One place they mention, Embsay, must be on a pretty steep slope as they mention cyclists hitting 50 MPH.

Reading the comments it would appear that everyone believes this piece to be rubbish including village residents who have been subject to some of the anti social behaviour alleged to have been committed by cyclists.
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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby Mick F » 8 Mar 2013, 3:32pm

“every cyclist worth his salt” would want to cycle the route.
I don't want to cycle the route.

I'm a master of sweeping statements, trouble is, I hate other people making them! :D
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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby Mark1978 » 8 Mar 2013, 3:34pm

I for one am certainly keen on cycling the route. Hopefully I will perhaps next year.

But I don't like the tone of the article which tries to say that the mere presence of the cyclists is an issue. Whereas them riding anti-socially is an issue! Riding at high speed in a group through a village - TdF style certainly isn't a good idea.

PS. Why does it keep mentioning "National Cycle Route" I'm not sure what that has to do with a Tour de France stage?
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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby [XAP]Bob » 8 Mar 2013, 3:37pm

Of course the amusing thing is that it's the RLJin which is illegal, but only mentioned as a side issued to the fact that they "sped through the village" which isn't against the law (not directly, care and attention might come into force)
A shortcut has to be a challenge, otherwise it would just be the way. No situation is so dire that panic cannot make it worse.
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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby Mark1978 » 8 Mar 2013, 3:38pm

[XAP]Bob wrote:Of course the amusing thing is that it's the RLJin which is illegal, but only mentioned as a side issued to the fact that they "sped through the village" which isn't against the law (not directly, care and attention might come into force)


Of course it's not illegal, but in some cases you could say it's anti-social.

BTW has anyone done the route? Any good? :D

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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 8 Mar 2013, 3:47pm

Hi,
You dont have to go far from where I live to hit 48.5 MPH, Without trying, so on its own is nothing.
I can believe Groups of people can cause antisocial behaveur, what ever form of transport they use.
Especially that and increase of awareness of cycling fashion seems to bring out every Tom Dick and Harry on their bikes :)
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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby [XAP]Bob » 8 Mar 2013, 4:02pm

Mark1978 wrote:
[XAP]Bob wrote:Of course the amusing thing is that it's the RLJin which is illegal, but only mentioned as a side issued to the fact that they "sped through the village" which isn't against the law (not directly, care and attention might come into force)


Of course it's not illegal, but in some cases you could say it's anti-social.

BTW has anyone done the route? Any good? :D


Nearly as antisocial as traffic in the morning... (yes that is partly facetious)
A shortcut has to be a challenge, otherwise it would just be the way. No situation is so dire that panic cannot make it worse.
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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby reohn2 » 8 Mar 2013, 5:21pm

Having read the article and cycled in the Craven area myself, it's obvious that the Councillor and Police chief are complete and utter twits.
If they'd enough brain cells to realise the stupidity of their statements they simply wouldn't have made them.
Other than the reports of RLJing which could be credible,all other comments made by them are stupid,highly unlikely or downright physically impossible :?
About half way down the comment section,the the paper's editor says he is only publishing what these two anti cycling morons have said and says their statement will be balanced by cyclists comment next week.
Why,oh why, weren't those comments published in the same article?

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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby John-D » 8 Mar 2013, 5:35pm

Still, the comments at the end are the most enlightened I've read following any previous piece about anti social cycling.

Edit: sorry hadn't seen previous post.

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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby RickH » 8 Mar 2013, 5:41pm

Craven Herald and pioneer wrote:..We have an elderly population in Embsay and we’ve had incidents where car wing mirrors have gone missing. Something needs to be done,” said Coun Quinn.

Is he saying the old people are pinching the wing mirrors? :shock:

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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby keyboardmonkey » 8 Mar 2013, 7:19pm

I think wing mirrors went missing from motor cars some time at the end of the 1970s didn't they?

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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby Mark1978 » 8 Mar 2013, 7:48pm

wow you're not wrong about the comments. I usually avoid comments sections as they are often full of the "yeah, cyclists are scum" attitude. But some very well put points indeed.

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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby MarkF » 8 Mar 2013, 9:02pm

I usually stop at Skipton before starting my return, looks like another mile further tomorrow................ :D

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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby thirdcrank » 8 Mar 2013, 9:13pm

MarkF wrote:I usually stop at Skipton before starting my return, looks like another mile further tomorrow................ :D


It's a while since I've been but the café at Embsay station (steam trains to Bolton Abbey) used to be nice.

I see it still has a cyclists' recommendation:

http://www.amkirby.co.uk/Cafes/C00254.htm

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Re: Yorkshire TdF stages backlash starts

Postby Ron » 8 Mar 2013, 11:01pm

reohn2 wrote:Why,oh why, weren't those comments published in the same article?


Perhaps because the Councillor may not have had enough rope to hang himself quite so spectacularly if some space in the initial article had been given over to opposing views?