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....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 10:35am
by mrh3113
http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/product ... brid-bikesThis is exactly what I was looking for - but it doesn't take panniers.
Marketed as the perfect commuting bike - but it doesn't take panniers...!!!
Spoke to chap at EBC and even he was perplexed as to why they have designed it without them.
With a budget of £1k - is there anything else out there that combines hydraulic discs, hub gears, comfortable riding position and can take panniers?
I can live without the belt drive if required
Any ideas?
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 10:44am
by Brucey
the image on their website appears to show carrier bosses on the seat stay. Are you saying that it won't take a carrier (and therefore mudguards...) ? Or just that a carrier isn't fitted?
BTW I wouldn't get too hung up on hydraulic discs for road use; cable operated ones can be easily good enough and are arguably easier to deal with when maintenance is required.
cheers
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 10:46am
by honesty
no mounting points at the drop out end, either because of the drop outs used for the hub, or because of the disk brake mount placement, so you cant fit full mudguards or a pannier rack. Seems a bit of an oversight on a bike aimed at commuting.
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 10:48am
by gentlegreen
You could always fit a disc brake-friendly rack that mounts on the wheel spindle - like the Old Man Mountain which I have - all the mounting holes on my alloy MTB frame have sheared-off screws in them - though in my case I also have unused V-brake bosses..
There's always the Surly disc trucker which is tempting me the most at the moment.
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 10:50am
by Vantage
Even a unicycle with some level of ingenuity will take panniers.
From the same site, you have this option,
http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/product ... st-carrieror, if a more traditional carrier is desired, you have a fitting kit,
http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/product ... er-fittingSimples
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 11:13am
by meic
Not so "simples".
I dont think that either of those two options will enable an engineeringly sound fitting of a rack to a bike with a disc brake caliper on the seat stays.
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 11:14am
by reohn2
mrh3113 wrote:http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/products/revolution-shadow-13?bct=browse%2fbicycles%2fcommuter-hybrid-bikes
This is exactly what I was looking for - but it doesn't take panniers.
Marketed as the perfect commuting bike - but it doesn't take panniers...!!!
Spoke to chap at EBC and even he was perplexed as to why they have designed it without them.
With a budget of £1k - is there anything else out there that combines hydraulic discs, hub gears, comfortable riding position and can take panniers?
I can live without the belt drive if required
Any ideas?
Didn't you know panniers are
out it's all courier bags slung over one shoulder worn with a tweed flat cap
PS, Bonkers!
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 11:21am
by gentlegreen
Performance luggage :-
http://www.oldmanmountain.com/Pages/Gal ... ation.htmlRetailed in the UK by Carradice.
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 11:24am
by mrh3113
I might use the bike for touring as well as commuting - I'd be worried how stable these ad-hoc solutions would be compared to a bike designed to take them from the off?
I know I probably don't
need hydraulic discs, but having come down greenhow hill on the C2C, the more braking in reserve the better, as far as I'm concerned.
Just seen post re the old man mountain racks - they certainly look more substantial.
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 11:32am
by meic
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 11:45am
by gentlegreen
I hate having to mount things on teeny screws. They ought to braze on proper brackets.
Of course the real annoyance is having that wheel where you would normally fit cross-braces.
I had a temporary solution when I first fitted the disc brake to the back of my bike :-
I did my first ever bike camping trip like that (you should have seen the DIY panniers !)
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 11:47am
by meic
but having come down greenhow hill on the C2C, the more braking in reserve the better, as far as I'm concerned.
Sorry to rock the boat but generally I am finding that my disc brake overheats more easily than my rim brakes did.
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 11:50am
by RickH
Sadly, I don't think the OMM or Spa option will work with this bike as it has a hub gear & therefore no QR at the rear as an alternative rack mounting. (Unless you stick it through the spokes!
) An OMM front rack might be a possibility (& even then you'd have to clamp the top mount with P-clips to the fork which might not be a good idea with a carbon fibre fork unless done very carefully).
Rick.
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 11:58am
by breakwellmz
gentlegreen wrote:I hate having to mount things on teeny screws. They ought to braze on proper brackets.
Of course the real annoyance is having that wheel where you would normally fit cross-braces.
I had a temporary solution when I first fitted the disc brake to the back of my bike :-
rackkludge.jpg
I did my first ever bike camping trip like that (you should have seen the DIY panniers !)
"A thing of beauty is a joy for ever"
Re: ....why this doesn't take panniers...?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 12:04pm
by meic
They are making life difficult arent they!
If you are tall you could use a 23L saddle bag hung from saddle.
Otherwise, I would wonder about some sort of bracket clamped behind the axle nuts, in a similar way to a trailer hitch and positioned so the rack stays clear the caliper.
I have wondered about using a caliper mounting bolt for mounting an adapted rack leg to that side.
I have since wondered if it would deflect the caliper enough (a tiny amount could do it) to cause disc rubbing especially on bumps.