mjr wrote: JohnW wrote: mjr wrote:
So the main so-called benefit of cyclists riding without headphones is to slow their journeys and get them out of the way of motorists. Got it. It sounds like it might be better for everyone if cyclists were required to wear deafening headphones! As well as keeping them on the highways and encouraging the safety-in-numbers effect, motorists would know there's no point shouting abuse!
No - what I'm saying is that there are common sense occasions when knowing that a vehicle is close behind and may pose a danger, and that it helps to know that it's there and it helps to apply a common sense solution if necessary.
I cannot agree that taking cyclists off the road is a common sense solution to any of the major problems facing us. It seems like an example of how this country's currently broken, where what's good for one particular cyclist (and I cannot blame anyone for doing it personally) is also what's bad for the nation.
I don't think that there's anything to be gained by you and I continuing this discourse on this thread.
I have to advise you that my hatred for motoring and for traffic far exceeds yours.
However, there are situations where we have to act for the best for ourselves.
I'm fully aware, and of the opinion, that is by no means a long term policy for road use for the greater good of mankind and the environment. However staying alive, avoiding the evil ones, and not wishing to make life worse for others, create moments in life when we have to act for the moment.
The OP was about problems experienced, whether real or imagined, with ear-plugs (or whatever you'd call them), and my support for the idea that they are not of benefit to riding my bike hasn't altered.