What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby Neilo » 17 Dec 2013, 2:06pm

A cycle tourist is a cyclist with a primus stove on the bar of their bike


Not on the bar, in my bag.(I'm under 60 as well) got about 50 of them, but that is another story
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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby Neilo » 17 Dec 2013, 2:19pm

What is the definition of a cycle tourist?


Whatever you want.
For me it's travelling on my bike, to see the country, whether it's out for an hour round the block, or multi day travelling, or anything in between.
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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby jags » 17 Dec 2013, 3:54pm

i do a bit of cycle touring but i wouldn't dream of calling myself a cycle tourer,
the reason i say that ive toured with a very experience cycle tourer who has it down to a fine art.
yes theres more to it that getting from point A to point B.
for instance.
HOW TO.
pitch a tent in jig time,
cook a meal thats tasty,
read a map properly,
packing your panniers the wright way,
setting a pace thats comfy for companion.
having a laugh during the ride.
yes theres so much to cycle touring no one thing makes a tour thats for certain get a good buddy to share the tour and there nothing better. :wink:

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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby ukdodger » 17 Dec 2013, 6:58pm

reohn2 wrote:I don't like pigeon holes.


:lol: You tell em..

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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby Vorpal » 17 Dec 2013, 7:37pm

Someone who rides a bike & carries stuff.
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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby Dave W » 17 Dec 2013, 7:39pm

No, that's a courier.

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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby Vorpal » 17 Dec 2013, 8:38pm

Dave W wrote:No, that's a courier.

A courier delivers stuffs. A tourist carries it.
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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby horizon » 17 Dec 2013, 8:53pm

al_yrpal wrote:Blah blah blah!

Its very simple, someone who tours for leisure by bike, for a day a week, a month or whatever, with or without luggage, staying in a tent or any other place overnight. Its really very simple. Why make it so complicated?

Al


I don't know why they make it so complicated. First of all they remove all the road signs from town centres. Then they close down half the YHA network. Then they stop you getting on a train with your bike without a reservation, having got rid of the guard's vans. Then they make it cheaper for a family to take their car across the Channel than their bikes. Then they whack up the charges to fly with a bike. Then they turn most of the pleasant touring roads into fast and unpleasant dual carriageways. Then most bike shops stop selling the bicycles that are most suitable for cycle touring. Then they try to make it illegal to cycle without a helmet (and have done in Spain).

Actually I agree, it still is really simple despite your having rightly pointed out that they have tried to make it so complicated.
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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby beetroot » 17 Dec 2013, 9:16pm

horizon wrote:
al_yrpal wrote:Blah blah blah!

Its very simple, someone who tours for leisure by bike, for a day a week, a month or whatever, with or without luggage, staying in a tent or any other place overnight. Its really very simple. Why make it so complicated?

Al


I don't know why they make it so complicated. First of all they remove all the road signs from town centres. Then they close down half the YHA network. Then they stop you getting on a train with your bike without a reservation, having got rid of the guard's vans. Then they make it cheaper for a family to take their car across the Channel than their bikes. Then they whack up the charges to fly with a bike. Then they turn most of the pleasant touring roads into fast and unpleasant dual carriageways. Then most bike shops stop selling the bicycles that are most suitable for cycle touring. Then they try to make it illegal to cycle without a helmet (and have done in Spain).

Actually I agree, it still is really simple despite your having rightly pointed out that they have tried to make it so complicated.

Who is they :?:

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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby horizon » 17 Dec 2013, 9:49pm

beetroot wrote:Who is they :?:


A wide range of policy makers across a spectrum of companies, government departments and organisations none of whom it seems realised (or cared about) the significance and effect of their decisions on cycle tourists.
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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby horizon » 17 Dec 2013, 10:09pm

I really, really wouldn't like to lose sight on this forum of the significance of cycling from place to place. I know that there are lots of forms of cycling that are enjoyable and non-specialist and I know that cycle touring is used these days to include day riding. But I also think that leaving home on just a bicycle with your luggage with an overnight destination in mind is an intrinsically challenging, interesting and worthwhile thing to do, whatever you age. And no matter how simple we on this forum believe it to be, to many people it is frightening to the point of impossible. And therein of course lies its value.

Before you write this off as obvious or dismiss it as fanciful, please consider the Land's End to John o'Groats section of this forum. There you will find people who are doing a tour for the first time, perhaps as a challenge event or to mark a birthday. Some of the planning and preparation for this simple 14 day ride within the UK begins a year in advance; there are myriads of anxious questions about accommodation, repairs, route finding, saddle types and coping with exhaustion. Much of that IMV has been made more difficult by the actions of government as I listed above. But much is the same as it has always been - a need to trust oneself and other people, to open yourelf to the kindness of strangers, to face fears and anxieties, to push at times your own physical limits not in the comfort and security of a gym but on the open road in all weathers. Many people find it significant enough to write blogs about it or raise money for charity on the back of it.

I wouldn't want others reading this forum to think that its members dismiss cycle touring so lightly and glibly that it appears that we don't see it for the almost unique life enhancing human activity that it is. And for those that think it is so simple, how about leaving your satnav, mobile phone and laptop behind next time?
When the pestilence strikes from the East, go far and breathe the cold air deeply. Ignore the sage, stay not indoors. Ho Ri Zon 12th Century Chinese philosopher

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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby MartinC » 17 Dec 2013, 10:26pm

Horizon, good post. That little frisson of concern when you set off in the morning without quite knowing where you'll be staying that night is one of the joys that you can't quite replicate any other way. It's not the only way to cycle tour though.

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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby tyreon » 17 Dec 2013, 10:32pm

Horizon.

Easy Tiger. I respect your comments. Respect gravel corners.

Am just getting to know people on this site. Following you Horizon...I think we could be friends. We cycle out to an agreed destination to converse to agree. The world is put right in 1 hr,Max.

Am married,so wont propose. But on readin' you...respect! We two could get along!

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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby Dave W » 17 Dec 2013, 10:33pm

Ooh Errr! :shock:

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Re: What is the definition of a cycle tourist?

Postby reohn2 » 17 Dec 2013, 11:06pm

Another big plus for Horizon's posts.

BTW,I'm also happily married,and I have my wife's permission to say that :?
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