What Happened To Raleigh?

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby thirdcrank » 24 Jul 2014, 12:44pm

What Happened To Raleigh?

Somewhere on the internet there's a detailed history of the company, including plenty about the decision to end manufacture in the UK and become an importer. I've linked to it on here before, but that link now seems to be broken. :(

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby samsbike » 24 Jul 2014, 2:57pm

Mark1978 wrote:Aren't they an American company now?


that's what I thought, or they have decided to focus more on the american market. They do have a nice line in steel bikes, but then so do Jamis

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby Bicycler » 24 Jul 2014, 3:16pm

thirdcrank wrote:Somewhere on the internet there's a detailed history of the company, including plenty about the decision to end manufacture in the UK and become an importer. I've linked to it on here before, but that link now seems to be broken. :(

This one? http://homepage.ntlworld.com/catfoodrob ... tory1.html

It's a long read (8 pages) but quite interesting

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby chocjohn9 » 25 Jul 2014, 12:24pm

The Head Office is in Holland -

Accell Group’s best known brands are Batavus (NL), Sparta (NL), Koga (NL), Loekie (NL), Ghost (Ger), Haibike (Ger), Winora (Ger), Raleigh and Diamondback (UK, US, Canada), Lapierre (Fr), Tunturi (Fi), Atala (IT), Redline (US) and XLC (international).

Accell Group and its subsidiaries employ approximately 2,800 people worldwide in eighteen countries. The company has production facilities in the Netherlands, Germany, France, Hungary, Turkey and China. Products of Accell Group are sold in more than seventy countries. The headquarters of the company are located in Heerenveen (the Netherlands). The Accell Group shares are traded on the official market of Euronext Amsterdam and included in the Amsterdam Midcap index (AMX).

In 2013 Accell Group has a turnover of € 849.0 million, profit about € 27 million.

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby goosegog » 29 Jul 2014, 2:12pm

What is strange about Raleigh is their German subsidy (Raleigh DE) makes some decent bikes which they advertise in Germany as "The Best of Britsh" (in English)

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby Sweep » 29 Jul 2014, 5:03pm

ah, like the mini.

such is life
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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby 531colin » 29 Jul 2014, 6:12pm

goosegog wrote:What is strange about Raleigh is their German subsidy (Raleigh DE) makes some decent bikes which they advertise in Germany as "The Best of Britsh" (in English)


In what sense is a bike imported whole from the Far East (or God knows where else) directly into Germany somehow "British"...?

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby thirdcrank » 29 Jul 2014, 6:28pm

531colin wrote: ... In what sense is a bike imported whole from the Far East (or God knows where else) directly into Germany somehow "British"...?


I can't speak for this example but this type of thing usually says something like "100% British design."

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby mercalia » 29 Jul 2014, 7:12pm

531colin wrote:
goosegog wrote:What is strange about Raleigh is their German subsidy (Raleigh DE) makes some decent bikes which they advertise in Germany as "The Best of Britsh" (in English)


In what sense is a bike imported whole from the Far East (or God knows where else) directly into Germany somehow "British"...?


hehe that describes what WE do these days? just import? I think a German dig at UK industry ( or lack of )?

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby 531colin » 29 Jul 2014, 8:15pm

goosegog wrote:What is strange about Raleigh is their German subsidy (Raleigh DE) makes some decent bikes which they advertise in Germany as "The Best of Britsh" (in English)


thirdcrank wrote:
531colin wrote: ... In what sense is a bike imported whole from the Far East (or God knows where else) directly into Germany somehow "British"...?


I can't speak for this example but this type of thing usually says something like "100% British design."


Paints an interesting picture.......an office full of chaps beavering away, designing not only bikes for the UK market, but also specific, different bikes for the German market, no doubt satisfying all the German regulations for bicycle lighting (and desire for eminently practical bikes) ....and then, quite unaccountably, failing to bring the "German market" bikes into the UK.......
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby jb » 30 Jul 2014, 9:13am

What happened to Raleigh?


When the power was theirs to change the world they stuck with a crap bottom bracket design (amongst others) because it was too much effort for the management to get off their backsides & think beyond the stone age designs of the past.
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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby pete75 » 30 Jul 2014, 3:19pm

531colin wrote:
goosegog wrote:What is strange about Raleigh is their German subsidy (Raleigh DE) makes some decent bikes which they advertise in Germany as "The Best of Britsh" (in English)


In what sense is a bike imported whole from the Far East (or God knows where else) directly into Germany somehow "British"...?


Isn't it similar with most so called "British" bikes. Either imported complete or frames and other components imported and just assembled here.

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby 531colin » 30 Jul 2014, 3:44pm

pete75 wrote:
531colin wrote:
goosegog wrote:What is strange about Raleigh is their German subsidy (Raleigh DE) makes some decent bikes which they advertise in Germany as "The Best of Britsh" (in English)


In what sense is a bike imported whole from the Far East (or God knows where else) directly into Germany somehow "British"...?


Isn't it similar with most so called "British" bikes. Either imported complete or frames and other components imported and just assembled here.


On that logic, bikes imported into England, or frames imported and built up in England should all be called "The best of German"....shouldn't they?

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby pete75 » 30 Jul 2014, 6:14pm

531colin wrote:
pete75 wrote:
531colin wrote:
In what sense is a bike imported whole from the Far East (or God knows where else) directly into Germany somehow "British"...?


Isn't it similar with most so called "British" bikes. Either imported complete or frames and other components imported and just assembled here.


On that logic, bikes imported into England, or frames imported and built up in England should all be called "The best of German"....shouldn't they?


You may have hit on a good marketing ploy Colin . Many here regard the best of German to be a lot better than the best of British.

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Re: What Happened To Raleigh?

Postby Zanda » 1 Aug 2014, 5:24pm

Thomas,
With that Ridgeback, you've stumbled upon a touring bike. You're right: they are useful for day to day transport. Here is my summary of their advantages.
http://cyclingfortransport.com/bike/typ ... ring-bike/
At the bottom of that page, you'll find links to some of the less expensive models that are currently available in bike shops - however, they all cost more than £300, so you might do well to seek out something second hand.