Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

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chocjohn9
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Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby chocjohn9 » 7 Jan 2015, 8:55am

It isn't debatable, I like the STIs on my touring bike :) ...and wanted 9 speed for durability, so fitted some Tiagra ones. I do not regret this despite now having a problem. The cables sprout perpendicularly from the lever into the "middle space" on the drops - just where a bar bag would go....and I want to attach one (I've already have an Ortlieb one)
Any suggestions for getting around this problem? - Can I just push the cables out of the way, or is there an extender or something else? ....and I'm not changing my STIs!

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby The Mechanic » 7 Jan 2015, 8:59am

If you fit 90 degree V-brake noodles at the lever this diverts the cable downward and should enable you to get the bar bag in between. I did this on my audax/tourer and it worked a treat. No loss of gear changing efficiency detectable. The wider your bars are the more space you have.
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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby mmuk » 7 Jan 2015, 9:23am

i just put longer cables on - then they go round the front of the bag. Works fine!

Mike

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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby Redvee » 7 Jan 2015, 12:53pm

mmuk wrote:i just put longer cables on - then they go round the front of the bag. Works fine!

Mike


Think that was my solution when I had 105 STI and a Carradice bar bag, more by accident than design.

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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby cycleruk » 7 Jan 2015, 12:57pm

I just bent the cables gently out of the way but have seen "noodles" used (as Mechanic says) to take the cables through 90 degrees. Depends on the size of the bag by how much the cables need to move.
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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby chocjohn9 » 7 Jan 2015, 2:20pm

Thank you for all of the replies so far.....my mind is now a rest. Good old forum! :D

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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby honesty » 7 Jan 2015, 2:30pm

Mine just bend out the way and go under the bag. I have about 2 inches between sti's and bag though.

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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby foxyrider » 7 Jan 2015, 5:40pm

Just push out of the way, it never caused a problem when I ran that combo although narrow bars could introduce other issues :(
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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby LollyKat » 7 Jan 2015, 10:16pm

There was a fairly recent short article by CJ in Cycle magazine about this. He found that after a while the cable casing wore so much that the cable started to escape, and the shifting was messed up. He does do a lot of touring, though. He recommended fitting flexible noodles. Other folk seem to manage fine with ordinary ones.

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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby elPedro666 » 10 Jan 2015, 1:00am

If the above still leaves it looking a bit tight, you could try Nokon cables - they'll turn through a much tighter arc than normal Bowden and work an absolute treat to boot, I love them!

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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby LollyKat » 10 Jan 2015, 12:27pm

Yebbut....at a price! :shock:

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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby elPedro666 » 10 Jan 2015, 12:39pm

LollyKat wrote:Yebbut....at a price! :shock:

Um, yeah, there is that. I've picked all mine up second hand - fresh liner and you're effectively new again. As you don't cut it, you can always add to it and reuse it too - think of it as an investment...

Tried the cheaper version from Alligator and had no luck at all, really binds in the curves. A better/thicker liner might solve that but I lost patience with it.

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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby thidwick » 10 Jan 2015, 3:04pm

I bought a new tourer last year (Dawes), and have just the same issue: STI levers with cables which would get in the way of a bar bag. I'm glad to see the issue discussed, and pleased to read of potential solutions. I had just about decided to buy a bar bag anyway, and then see how well it worked with the cables. Now if it doesn't work too well, then I understand from this thread that there are 2 likely fixes: noodles and Nokon cables.
Another potential fix that I'd considered is changing the levers. On some bikes with similar looking levers the gear cables seem to be able to go under the bar tape. Must be different levers I guess.
I'd be really interested to know what the OP (chocjohn) decides, and how he gets on.
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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby Brucey » 10 Jan 2015, 5:20pm

you can buy so called 'flexi-noodles' that are meant for 'V' brakes. These start at about £2 and run up to £5 for ones with built-in barrel adjusters. These can be made to work on STI controls; just be sure to use a good ferrule between the standard cable housing and the noodle.

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Re: Tiagra STIs and a bar bag

Postby mr_mark_sid » 10 Jan 2015, 8:49pm

we just fit the bar bag and protect the gear cable where it would otherwise rub with these:

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/sram-outer-cable-protector-rubber-black-qty-4-prod30464/

that works fine for us. I secured the cable protectors in place with small zip ties.