reohn2 wrote:With a 20 rider group two 10's,two abreast, with a good three or four car gap between seems reasonable and considerate to me.
Ten riders filed out isn't a safe option on some roads IME,better a 'clump' of two's than long line.
I agree but for a different reason. Strung out single file many motorists will start to squeeze past, realise too late they can't get past all of them and then bully their way back into the line forcing some cyclists to be squeezed off the road or take avoiding action. Far better two abreast and force a proper overtake
That was my meaning perhaps I didn't explain my self clearly enough.
I've also experienced on a couple of occasions,motorists gesticulating by slowing down and jabbing a finger toward the gutter,for us to get into single file whilst riding two abreast on a wide road with very clear sightlines,only to be given a friendly wave in return,it's amazing how it infuriates them
I'm convinced that motorists really do think they have preference over cyclists,even if they don't always express it,but the worst drivers can be very dangerous in their manoeuvres toward what they see as errant cyclists.
I've had a few chats with drivers who don't think cyclist are allowed to ride two abreast,only when explaining that it's perfectly legal and the reason why do they back off.
IMHO the 'untouchable' nature of UK law enforcement toward motorists and lack of any kind on strict liability laws in favour of vulnerable road users,not just cyclists,only serves to embolden the motorists attitude and belligerence toward such road users.
Might is right on UK roads and it stinks.
I wonder what the locals and police response would be if all the cyclists were to drive their cars up and down Box Hill and surrounding roads all day,at or just below the speed limit,to show how congested 'their' roads could be!
TBH if I lived in the area I'd be seriously thinking of opening a coffee house/tea room to welcome more cyclists in,and make a living at the same time,but then I'm deviant in that way