You and yours bbc 4 26th May 2015 - Chris Boardman

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You and yours bbc 4 26th May 2015 - Chris Boardman

Postby Dynamite_funk » 26 May 2015, 9:20am

I have searched but cant find it on the forum. Should be an interesting programme. Maybe people would like to call in and express an opinion?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 0622,d.ZGU

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Re: You and yours bbc 4 26th May 2015 - Chris Boardman

Postby tatanab » 26 May 2015, 10:16am

The link above goes to an old programme. Today's, to be transmitted at 12:15 is http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05vy4kk

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Re: You and yours bbc 4 26th May 2015 - Chris Boardman

Postby Dynamite_funk » 26 May 2015, 10:41am

tatanab wrote:The link above goes to an old programme. Today's, to be transmitted at 12:15 is http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05vy4kk


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Re: You and yours bbc 4 26th May 2015 - Chris Boardman

Postby pjclinch » 26 May 2015, 2:23pm

Par for the course. Boardman talking some Good Sense, some irate callers who couldn't see the point if it came up and bit them on the nose, some fairly sensible callers (thankfully the final one was one such), I suspect few folk thinking very differently to how they did before.

I suppose we just have to keep plugging away...

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Re: You and yours bbc 4 26th May 2015 - Chris Boardman

Postby Freddie » 26 May 2015, 3:30pm

It was a pretty rubbish format. It would have been nice if Chris Boardman was able to interact and debate with other guests and callers, but the format only allowed a couple of minutes for the presenter to ask the same set of questions for every caller. It was a waste of time, both listening and for those who were a part of the show. None of the people featured seemed to leave thinking differently from when the program started. Had I known it was an "air your grievances" show like Points of View, I wouldn't have bothered with it.

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Re: You and yours bbc 4 26th May 2015 - Chris Boardman

Postby ferdinand » 26 May 2015, 8:19pm

I thought the format was classic tabloid BBC outrage trolling which seems to have reached Radio 4.

The presenter spent her time buttonholing callers to answer stupid questions, such as "should bike be registered and have numberplates", and did not even seem to be aware that Bikeability replaced Cycling Proficiency some time ago, nor that it is available free in half (?) of schools, nor as to what it actually comprises.

The Beeboids had just not done any prep as to what works and what doesn't, which is unforgiveable for a 45 minute flagship programme.

If they had done some prep she would have been able to explain why such ideas are dead ends.

There were some interesting callers and interviewees such as a founder of the London-Brighton run, who thought that cyclists had lost the habit of situational awareness, someone from the IAM who made the point that it was about habits and culture not quick fixes and kneejerks, and several others.

Chris was very good and very sensible, and will imo make a significant difference but it will take a generation. It should have been about him and the callers, not a series of rhetorical muggings from the presenter.

But he needs to work on his Maths. I had to check that he hadn't been to Oxford University to be taught that counting consists of "1" .. "2" .. "3" .. "lots". He's so much better than all the media idiots with Oxford Arts Degrees who can't add up.

I spotted 2 howlers. One of them was that 30% of Danish journeys by bike are not the "vast majority".

Overall, a wasted opportunity salvaged slightly by a few of the contributors.

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Re: You and yours bbc 4 26th May 2015 - Chris Boardman

Postby reohn2 » 26 May 2015, 8:53pm

Freddie,Ferdinand.
Spot on.
Another opportunity missed IMHO.
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Re: You and yours bbc 4 26th May 2015 - Chris Boardman

Postby Merry_Wanderer » 26 May 2015, 10:07pm

I must admit that I was tempted to ring in and suggest that pedestrians have number plates tattooed onto their foreheads to make them easier to trace and more accountable :-)

I thought that Chris did pretty well. He asked the question "What is it that you are trying to achieve?" and stressed the point that far more motorists kill and injure people than do cyclists. Yes, far more work to do but it takes high profile public figures to put the case for cycling

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Re: You and yours bbc 4 26th May 2015 - Chris Boardman

Postby squeaker » 27 May 2015, 10:02am

Freddie wrote:Had I known it was an "air your grievances" show like Points of View, I wouldn't have bothered with it.

Well it is known as 'Whinger's World' :roll: :lol:
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Re: You and yours bbc 4 26th May 2015 - Chris Boardman

Postby ukdodger » 27 May 2015, 4:51pm

I liked it.

Having a proficiency test isnt a bad idea. It could be enhanced by insisting that everyone has to take it before they get a drivers licence. It was maddening to hear a lorry driver complain about us when I've personally nearly been killed twice by lorries on roundabouts. I gave up my car eight years ago and I've had more abuse in those eight years than I ever had driving cars and motorbikes in the previous fifty.

Having said that these cyclists are what drivers see most and complain about most and it's to them we'll have to send thanks when they slap plates on us.

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