time wasters on forum when selling

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col30564
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time wasters on forum when selling

Postby col30564 » 16 Aug 2018, 4:20pm

can any expain why you get people saying yes i will buy it and collect it on a certain date etc,ps not every one is like this but theres certainley alot
is it because they get a thrill of people going to the trouble of email pics to them so they can fantasise

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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby alexnharvey » 16 Aug 2018, 7:19pm

Setting a date and then not coming send to be increasingly common in selling these days often without notice. Tempting to take a deposit. Not as bad as buying houses theses days though.

On the other hand, there are many bikes I'm interested in buying and the financial controller says no. I suppose being interested in buying and being able to do so are quite different matters. Especially if distances are great, pragmatism trumps desire. It's no excuse for not letting the seller know though.

Asking for pictures on the other hand seems quite reasonable, I'm not sure there's a valid complaint there. In fact is strange how many people advertise without any picture. Surely you're more likely to sell with good pictures in the ad.

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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby PH » 16 Aug 2018, 7:26pm

What is it you're selling?
I thought there might be a clue there, but I couldn't find anything you have for sale. A bit odd.

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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby brynpoeth » 16 Aug 2018, 7:30pm

Sale threads are deleted after a while
Otherwise these fora would be a bit clogged up with old ads which are of little interest (?)

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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby col30564 » 17 Aug 2018, 7:25am

i took my adds off as i were fed up with time wasters,

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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby random37 » 17 Aug 2018, 7:50am

col30564 wrote:i took my adds off as i were fed up with time wasters,


I seem to remember trying to sell you a touring bike on this very forum, about five or six years ago when I still lived in Derby.

You were two hours late even though I told you I had somewhere else to be. You insisted on a half hour test ride, then you said you wanted the bike but weren't prepared to pay the asking price.

I said "Sorry you drove from Sheffield!", and let you out of the gates. You were surprised, I think.

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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby resus1uk » 17 Aug 2018, 8:13am

Posting pictures on the forum isn't easy as some computer knowledge is needed to reduce the file size to under the limit. Off-putting for some seniors.
I tried four times in the last year with one bike. Sold easily elsewhere . Blunt "reminders " about posting pictures, then no further interest. Silly offers to take it off my hands and wanting reduction based on travel costs to see the bike or funding changes in components the buyer wanted to make to bring the bike to their taste.
I'm unlikely to use this website to sell again. Fortunately my family suddenly needed my spare classic bike after their's was stolen. Ad now dropped off the board

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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby random37 » 17 Aug 2018, 8:38am

I noticed after a few years away that there is the same cast of characters buying and selling bikes. And I know full well that if I were to sell something at a low price on here, it would be bought to be resold with a markup.

There's too many people trying to make money from what is essentially old junk. You can't blame them, of course. It's hard to make money.

I don't think it is worth selling old bikes. I would rather give them away to people who would genuinely use them and enjoy them, or perhaps to bike recycling charities. That's what I did with my last three bikes (a fifties club bike, a Brompton, and a tourer). I make more money working than I would trying to get the last bit of value from something I've owned and enjoyed.

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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby PH » 17 Aug 2018, 10:26am

random37 wrote:I noticed after a few years away that there is the same cast of characters buying and selling bikes. And I know full well that if I were to sell something at a low price on here, it would be bought to be resold with a markup.

Would that matter to you? When I've sold something, it's gone, no longer mine, I have no interest in what the new owner does with it, if they sell it on and make a profit, good luck to them.
I've bought and sold a fair bit on this forum over the years, about 50/50, bikes, frames, wheels, tools, lights, components and books, never had a problem with any buyer or seller. I've had offers I've rejected and made offers that weren't accepted, won some and lost some, I haven't considered any of it time wasting. I'm sure that it happens and it's a shame when it does, my experience is that it isn't common and that most people buying and selling here are genuine.

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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby random37 » 17 Aug 2018, 12:51pm

PH wrote:Would that matter to you? When I've sold something, it's gone, no longer mine, I have no interest in what the new owner does with it, if they sell it on and make a profit, good luck to them.


I'm not sure. I agree with you, but then I don't like the idea that, say, my old bike will be broken up for parts. I'd like them to be used.

And yes, the majority of transactions have been nice, and the people I've met have been nice too.

I still go with what I said. It is not worth my time to sell my old bikes. I've been happier giving them away.

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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby horizon » 17 Aug 2018, 1:15pm

resus1uk wrote:Posting pictures on the forum isn't easy as some computer knowledge is needed to reduce the file size to under the limit. Off-putting for some seniors.


One way is to request to email the pctures to someone who can resize them (it's quite simple to do) and then post them here for you. That seems to have happened a few times. It's also a good excuse for someone to see the photos even if they know they won't be buying!

One other point: I would say that if you have to travel to see a bike it probably won't be worth your while. Today's technology can provide amazing photos and all the other "seller clues" are there to be had. So, take a risk and save the cost of travel. And correspondingly, if the seller cannot post it may be harder to sell.
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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby resus1uk » 17 Aug 2018, 1:29pm

Other forums reduce the file size automatically. Also using an Android device can occasionally fail. There are Android phone apps that can reduce file sizes. I used this last time. But it is still all clunky even after 40 years of using computers.

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Re: time wasters on forum when selling

Postby admin » 17 Aug 2018, 2:17pm

It's odd that phpBB doesn't have a feature to resize large images on upload. However I think I might have found a patch that would do it...