Ebay redirects - poll

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Ebay redirects - what do you think?

Things should stay as they are
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16%
Must say "Ebay" in advert title
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43%
Don't allow ebay redirects
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Ebay redirects - poll

Postby pigman » 14 May 2008, 2:30pm

Is it just me that gets annoyed with Ebay redirects here on this forum. I check most ads to see if anything tempts me. Sometimes I buy on impulse. Everytime i open an Ebay redirect ad, its an immediate turnoff and whats more says nothing about what is being sold, its just a weblink.

If i want to shop on ebay, then i'll go onto their site and view/shop. Currently, I don't as I dont trust it, know people who've been stung and know Ebay business traders who have to pay ebay loads of dosh to trade and adhere to their (unreasonable in my view) ways of doing business.

I could sympathise a bit if the seller made it known that they would gladly withdraw it off ebay should someone on here be interested.

I see ACF have a clear "no ebay sales" instruction on their forum

hows about as a half way measure stating its an Ebay sale in the title - then we know not to view.

grumpy old man's got that off his chest.

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Postby piedwagtail91 » 14 May 2008, 2:51pm

i agree ,if i want to buy something then thats why i look as i want to buy or make an offer there and then.i don't want to spend a week waiting to find out if it's mine.

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Postby leftpoole » 14 May 2008, 3:15pm

If I advertise and the particular thing is on Ebay-I state that i will withdraw it for CTC buyer. The trouble with CTC list, is that it takes days/weeks for people to make up their minds. Ebay it either sells or it does not, plus its a bigger audience and payment is faster too.
I do agree in principal with the first post. ACF is another kettle of fish entirely as its run with a rod of iron!
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Postby Si » 14 May 2008, 3:39pm

hows about as a half way measure stating its an Ebay sale in the title - then we know not to view.


If people generally dislike opening adds to find that they are ebay redirects then we could instigate this rule (as I believe STW do) - how many people think that it would improve the forum ?

regarding ACF, the reason for no ebay was that Sam got income from the adds there (when the sellers were good enough to make a donation upon completion of the sale - I'm sure that they all do). If ebay ads had been allowed then it would not have been possible to tell if the buyer found the ad via ACF or directly via ebay and so Sam might have lost out (these contributions helped pay for the forum). However, as this forum does not gain financially from adds it was decided that ebay redirects be allowed.

Pigman - I hope that you don't mind me adding a poll to your original post :D

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Postby Mick F » 14 May 2008, 3:50pm

I don't want ebay redirects.

I feel that if someone advertises on here, it's aimed at the users of this site.

"Blanket Bombing" by advertising everywhere at once may get quick results, but it's messy and not very intimate. Granted, advertising on here is a bit slow, and even hit-and-miss, but it works.

This forum is it's own community, it's like the letters pages of a magazine. I know some folk only register to sell stuff, but hopefully they'll become drawn into this community.
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Postby thirdcrank » 14 May 2008, 4:49pm

I've plumped for the middle option, but with little confidence it will work. My reasoning is that so long as people are open, most things are OK. Unfortunately, even the simplest rules seem to be beyond some people. We still get ads with the subject line 'wanted' with nothing else mentioned, or the nature of the goods but no clue as to whether they are being sold or sought.

If basic, obvious things like that are overlooked or misunderstood, what hope for something like this?

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Postby ncutler » 14 May 2008, 5:22pm

I would prefer NOT to allow people to advertise ebay sales here.

I don't have a problem with ebay itself [ I have sold several items there, very happily, and corresponded with some very pleasant people, but my view may be coloured by the fact that I was more interested in finding a second home for old cameras etc than trying to make any money ].

I find I get very irritated by people who post only in order to drum-up interest in their ebay auctions: bad form if you ask me. These posts do nothing to further the sense of community here: they are a Neasdy commercial intrusion that the forum can do without.

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Postby Edwards » 14 May 2008, 7:54pm

I do not like buying from Ebay. It is a personal thing, so I do not like the redirect and do not open them.
It would be helpfull if the sales said Ebay in the title then I would not open it.

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Postby gaz » 14 May 2008, 10:43pm

Not allowing e-bay redirects will simply mean more work for the mods, removing the e-bay related posts.

Insisting on "e-bay" warnings in the title simply makes more work for the mods. Lets face it the number of posters that already forget to put "For Sale" or "Wanted" in the title is infuriating enough, never mind a clear description of the item and where else it's for sale. Who's going to have to put it right, the mods.

So I'll settle for the status quo and let the mods get on with the moderating.
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Postby pigman » 15 May 2008, 8:46am

gaz wrote:Insisting on "e-bay" warnings in the title simply makes more work for the mods. .... So I'll settle for the status quo and let the mods get on with the moderating.


In principle youre right - I dont want to pass more work onto some volunteers cos of my personal gripe. But .... i'll wager that like the (I assume) mass majority of forum users they access every "For Sale " thread out of curiosity anyhow. Once opened, is it not just a simple "delete" action for those that havent conformed to what the forum requires. In addition, theres more than just moderators - theres the administrators and now the spam busters, the last of these may be most appropriate as I see these ebay redirects as a form of spam.

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Postby ncutler » 15 May 2008, 9:05am

gaz wrote:Not allowing e-bay redirects will simply mean more work for the mods, removing the e-bay related posts.

I would be perfectly happy to zap a few 'ebay' posts - it doesn't take very long. I would want to send a brief PM to the perpetrator with the reason for doing it, but that isn't onerous either.

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Postby adamant » 15 May 2008, 10:24am

I disagree. I think that it is a useful service for people to advertise ebay posts here. We are a niche audience and, as others have said, sometimes buy on impulse. There have been ebay redirects here that I have found very valuable, about which I would not have known were they not here.

As a courtesy - and to increase interest - I would advise those posting ebay links to include a full description on this site.

As a buyer, I would prefer a fixed price. As a seller, I feel rather different. Some items I am happy to see go for a jumble sale price. If they are of use to someone else, great, and I get a few quid.

With higher value items, it is understandable that sellers want to get the best price.

The starting complaint was that it was bothersome to check a post only to find that it is an ebay link. Agreed - but is it really so bothersome that you don't want to know about those items? I can live with a few blind alleys if they mean that I am seeing more of the market.

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Postby adamant » 15 May 2008, 10:25am

I disagree. I think that it is a useful service for people to advertise ebay posts here. We are a niche audience and, as others have said, sometimes buy on impulse. There have been ebay redirects here that I have found very valuable, about which I would not have known were they not here.

As a courtesy - and to increase interest - I would advise those posting ebay links to include a full description on this site.

As a buyer, I would prefer a fixed price. As a seller, I feel rather different. Some items I am happy to see go for a jumble sale price. If they are of use to someone else, great, and I get a few quid.

With higher value items, it is understandable that sellers want to get the best price.

The starting complaint was that it was bothersome to check a post only to find that it is an ebay link. Agreed - but is it really so bothersome that you don't want to know about those items? I can live with a few blind alleys if they mean that I am seeing more of the market.

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Postby DaveLeighton » 15 May 2008, 10:36am

I don't see that theres a problem. If you don't want to follow the link, don't click it!
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Postby Jeckyll_n_Snyde » 15 May 2008, 12:20pm

ncutler wrote:I find I get very irritated by people who post only in order to drum-up interest in their ebay auctions: bad form if you ask me. These posts do nothing to further the sense of community here: they are a Neasdy commercial intrusion that the forum can do without.

I agree 100%

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