mercalia wrote: kwackers wrote:
mattheus wrote:So where does THAT leave us? (and the ProRogues??)
So nothing new.
Matter fot the Supreme Court asap?
As I understand it, the English judges opined that the judiciary had no remit or precedent for making a judgement about "a political matter". I'm no expert on the law but this sounds like a Pontius hand-wash to me.
One could imagine several actions of a political nature that are certainly well within the remit of the law. In fact, the whole of the law is generated by political action as law is the prime exudation of politics in a democratic state run by the rule of law. The Scottish judges obviously felt no such limitation on the scope or domain of their authority.
The Hitler history and others of a similar kind illustrate the technique of proto-fascists gaining enough power to declare some sort of state of emergency requiring the suspension of normal political processes, including the checks & balances of other powers, rule of law and whatever else stands in their way of declaring unilateral actions supposedly for the good of the nation-under-threat. Essentially, that's what BoJo is doing now, with impending Brexit the supposed "emergency" condition.
In 1933/4 the German judiciary also rolled over in the face of political pressure and secret dealings/threats from the Nazi politicos. The initial excuse was the Reichstag fire, blamed on the communist opposition (who had nothing to do with it). As a result, all opposition was rounded up and interned without trial. Himmler and the SS expanded the process of identifying various enemies of the state (jews, gays, gypsies and many others, as well as any Hitler-critics) placing them in Dachau, where the murdering began.
"It couldn't happen here".....? Well, it's not that likely we'll have a Himmler in the next year ... but give it time. Bojoklown and the Dom-Dommie are well aware of this technique for dismantling democratic states and seem pleased to use one version. Their intent is not so bloody as that of the Nazis but they certainly intend to set up a state bereft of regulatory controls, including an ineffective Parliament that will enable their continuation of an even more extreme version of neoliberalism, engineered not so much for the ordinary goods & services maker capitalists but for financial speculators and criminal elements happy to pay a fee for money laundering and tax evasion facilities.
If BoJo and the mad far right Tories currently in power get away with one proroguing of Parliament, they will try more ... and perhaps more severe and permanent avoidance of democratic modes. Once they have an unassailable power, they will inevitably do anything to hang on to it. Once they have an unassailable power, they will use it to do what they want, which will include many very unpleasant things damaging to the vast majority of the population.