From roughly 3 mins in, the first is very likely just some slow moving small object (like, a bird) with a fast moving background due to parallax effect from the jet moving and the camera locked to the object.Jdsk wrote: ↑16 Sep 2021, 9:17amYes.reohn2 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2021, 9:03amHave you seen the 'tictac' sighting that two naval jet fighter pilots encountered in 2004 :- https://youtu.be/ZBtMbBPzqHYJdsk wrote: ↑16 Sep 2021, 8:33am No, they don't. You need a model of what they are in order to convert eg visual or radar observations into acceleration. That would include properties such as how big they are and how *far away they are. And for the vast majority of observations those data are not available.
* As with sheep.
They don't know what those are. And I don't know what those are.
2 is just something that's flashing and/or glinting, the flashing pattern actually looks rather like a normal plane's to me. The only reason it's that triangular shape is because it's out of focus and the camera has a three blade aperture, the chimney and some other light points also have the same triangular nature.
3? Could be anything really, there's no background to reference against and when, later in the vid, it just 'zips off' looks entirely to me like it just reached the gimbal limit of the camera, particularly in the way it wobbles sightly (because the aircraft itself is not 100% steady)
The fourth is just something over exposing a thermal camera (for whatever reason, almost all of these cameras seem to go back to the opposite end of the display spectrum in such circumstances so if whiter is hotter it will show black when the sensor is overloaded). The shape of it is just abberations from the lensing, the way it rotates in relation to the plane reorientating is quite characteristic and should be quite familiar to anyone who's idly messed about observing how such abberations and flares behave with a camera. The movement against the clouds is just more parallax and the object is likely just something reflecting the sun.
Without any actually convincing video footage it is hard to take the pilots' accounts with much merit.