The stand-offs continue...

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The stand-offs continue...

Postby Freddie » 2 Oct 2015, 11:07am

https://uk.screen.yahoo.com/road-rage/b ... 00296.html

What is it with people today? Such arrogance that they'd rather waste an hour of their and other peoples time, rather than back down (whether right or wrong) and allow everyone to get on with their day. The bus driver should be given a formal warning by his employers in this case, as he is providing a service that people have paid money for and holding customers and members of the public up unnecessarily.

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Re: The stand-offs continue...

Postby kwackers » 2 Oct 2015, 11:16am

Get a bike past that easy.

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Postby axel_knutt » 2 Oct 2015, 12:54pm

I see the Daily Mail got straight to the nub of the problem: tattoos and ginger hair. :lol:
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Re: The stand-offs continue...

Postby blackbike » 2 Oct 2015, 1:42pm

The obvious solution is not to allow a narrow street to be used as a car park.

Then these drivers could have passed each other quite easily.

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Re: The stand-offs continue...

Postby Penfold » 2 Oct 2015, 6:53pm

Who gives a cuss?
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Postby 661-Pete » 2 Oct 2015, 9:40pm

Sounds like a replay of that 'tunnel' thread we just had - I couldn't quite figure out how this started, it seems to one of those pinch-points deliberately inserted into a less busy road as a traffic calming measure (does it?). In which case one of the motorists will have had the
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Re: The stand-offs continue...

Postby Pyranha » 3 Oct 2015, 8:52am

Part of the issue in the bus stand-off is the quote from First that drivers should not reverse. That makes a lot of sense when you think about the visibility behind a bus - as far as I am aware (I work for a bus company, but not in operations) all bus movements in depots are done by shunters rather than by the 'drivers'. I suppose reversing might have been possible in the days of conductors, since he/she could have acted as a banksman.

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Postby 661-Pete » 3 Oct 2015, 10:18am

Well, I would certainly reverse if I came, in my car, face-to-face with a bus or HGV - even if it was my 'right' of way. In the immortal words of Mr Prosser, slightly amended:
Douglas Adams wrote:MR PROSSER: Have you any idea how much damage that bulldozer[/bus/lorry] would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?
ARTHUR DENT: How much?
MR PROSSER: None at all.
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Postby [XAP]Bob » 3 Oct 2015, 10:23am

We'll see who rusts first...

Most busses around here have rear view cameras...
But yes, I'd agree in general.
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Re: The stand-offs continue...

Postby ambodach » 3 Oct 2015, 10:24am

A bus with passengers cannot reverse more than a very few yards without assistance from an observer. This is relevant on our single track roads and if you overshoot a passing place with a bus approaching then there is no option but to reverse as the bus cannot legally back up any relevant distance.

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Postby Heltor Chasca » 3 Oct 2015, 10:48am

I have a horrible feeling I would have done the same as the driver. I personally need to learn more self control. My particular button is anything I perceive to be bullying behaviour. Red mist descends.

I feel sorry for the driver who has to deal with bad behaviour from the public all the time. I live and work in the area and Bath isn't the pretty little city we all think. It is quite rough in parts and the town centre is a nightmare at night.

I believe First Buses has fired him, but as an agency driver I hope he gets some leniency thrown his way and keeps his job. Work isn't easy to find down here in the South West.

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Re: The stand-offs continue...

Postby pete75 » 3 Oct 2015, 2:11pm

ambodach wrote:A bus with passengers cannot reverse more than a very few yards without assistance from an observer. This is relevant on our single track roads and if you overshoot a passing place with a bus approaching then there is no option but to reverse as the bus cannot legally back up any relevant distance.


If it has passengers then no problem finding an observer is there? In any case truck drivers, even in large artics, are brilliant at reversing into even the seemingly tightest of spaces and all done purely on the mirrors. You'd have thought bus drivers have to pass at least as stringent a test as lorry drivers.

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Postby Vorpal » 3 Oct 2015, 2:16pm

pete75 wrote:
ambodach wrote:A bus with passengers cannot reverse more than a very few yards without assistance from an observer. This is relevant on our single track roads and if you overshoot a passing place with a bus approaching then there is no option but to reverse as the bus cannot legally back up any relevant distance.


If it has passengers then no problem finding an observer is there? In any case truck drivers, even in large artics, are brilliant at reversing into even the seemingly tightest of spaces and all done purely on the mirrors. You'd have thought bus drivers have to pass at least as stringent a test as lorry drivers.

I'm not sure I would trust a random bus passenger with my job, which is potentially what a bus driver is doing if he reverses the bus on a public road, in violation of his company's policy.

Even if th eperson in the car had priority, it was a silly thing to do.
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Postby pete75 » 3 Oct 2015, 3:08pm

Vorpal wrote:
pete75 wrote:
ambodach wrote:A bus with passengers cannot reverse more than a very few yards without assistance from an observer. This is relevant on our single track roads and if you overshoot a passing place with a bus approaching then there is no option but to reverse as the bus cannot legally back up any relevant distance.


If it has passengers then no problem finding an observer is there? In any case truck drivers, even in large artics, are brilliant at reversing into even the seemingly tightest of spaces and all done purely on the mirrors. You'd have thought bus drivers have to pass at least as stringent a test as lorry drivers.

I'm not sure I would trust a random bus passenger with my job, which is potentially what a bus driver is doing if he reverses the bus on a public road, in violation of his company's policy.

Even if th eperson in the car had priority, it was a silly thing to do.


It seems that driver shouldn't have trusted himself with his job. It was because his foul mouthed rant was in front of a bus full of passengers that he was,quite rightly, sacked. Regardless of the rights or wrongs of the driving situation effing and blinding in front of paying customers is not on for a bus driver.

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Re: The stand-offs continue...

Postby al_yrpal » 3 Oct 2015, 5:07pm

Perhaps this would be a good solutuon?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Scout

Fitted with pedals of course..

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