Role model: who is yours?
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Bert Trautmann made a great contribution to international understanding, he was a German goalie who took the Etihad Shilling soon after ww2, a film of his life appears soon
Any suggestions for an alternative term to 'Role Model'?
Just got a literary lexicon with biographies of dozens of people I admire
Any suggestions for an alternative term to 'Role Model'?
Just got a literary lexicon with biographies of dozens of people I admire
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Joss Naylor gets a lot of votes here
Does he cycle?
Does he cycle?
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Cyril Haearn wrote:Joss Naylor gets a lot of votes here
Does he cycle?
Yes, I’ve seen him on a bike.
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Cyril Haearn wrote:Joss Naylor gets a lot of votes here
Does he cycle?
I like the Joss as a fell runner and as a sporty lad who doesn't sucumb to prima-donna seleb mode. However, this doesn't make him "my hero" as who knows what else he gets up to? Perhaps he votes Tory and runs after cyclists to tell them off for riding on the bridleways? Or worse (although little is worse than voting Tory).
It's a modern thing to confuse good actions with good "personalities". Good actions are to be admired, praised and referenced as exemplary. But "good personalities" may easily exude some bad person habits, whether one hasn't heard of them or whether they are yet to manifest. All of us are awful sinners, ripe for the sinning and very lucky if we've not given in to the various temptations to be "all too human".
To make a hero of someone, rather than some of their particular actions, is to suspend judgement about their other actions. Many end up as fans, excusing the most outrageous acts as the actor is "my hero".
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Someone wrote something like:
Even the kindest people [Bob Holman, Cugel, Cyril Haearn..] have done stupid, nasty things
Even the nastiest nazi was once a cute little baby
Even the kindest people [Bob Holman, Cugel, Cyril Haearn..] have done stupid, nasty things
Even the nastiest nazi was once a cute little baby
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Jacinda Ardern, pm of nz, is very popular and admired right now but her star will sink sooner or later
What do retired politicians do?
What do retired politicians do?
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Neil Armstrong. One of the best stick and rudder men that ever lived, but modest and understated to a painful degree. I'll never have his character, but if I had to choose a decent human being to emulate then it would be him.
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Lance Dopestrong was a model policeperson, he booked WVMs who parked illegally, Plus One!
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Cyril Haearn wrote:Jacinda Ardern, pm of nz, is very popular and admired right now but her star will sink sooner or later.......
I agree,contrast her with the poor excuse the UK has for PM and it's easy to see why the UK is in the mess it is.
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Writing in another thread reminded me of Gorbachev, IMV the greatest statesman of the last century and indeed a role model.
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horizon wrote:Writing in another thread reminded me of Gorbachev, IMV the greatest statesman of the last century and indeed a role model.
Definitely a pragmatist, too far ahead of his time.
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Tiger Woods, the Greatest Comeback in sporting history, perhaps (Grauniad)
Anyone agree?
Anyone agree?
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John Bercow seems an admirable fellow
What does he do next? Who might be the next Speaker?
What does he do next? Who might be the next Speaker?
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Hi Cyril Haearn, I'd only use Bercow as a role model if I was after the job of "Village Idiot"! Pass him the Motley . MM
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Oldjohnw wrote:I don't have role models. There are aspects of the behaviour and character of some which I have admired and respected and tried to learn from or even tried to emulate.
Everyone has feet of clay.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT ROLE MODELS ARE !!!
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DRESS UP LIKE THEM, OR CHANGE YOUR NAME BY DEED POLL, OR GET PLASTIC SURGERY!!!
Sorry, I feel better now ...