Role model: who is yours?

Use this board for general non-cycling-related chat, or to introduce yourself to the forum.
100%JR
Posts: 1138
Joined: 31 May 2016, 10:47pm
Location: High Green,Sheffield.

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by 100%JR »

Cyril Haearn wrote:Lance Dopestrong, sorry armstring, used to be a role model

Still is now and probably more so than he was 99-05.
He still will be in another 20 years :wink:
gbnz
Posts: 2012
Joined: 13 Sep 2008, 10:38am

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by gbnz »

Role model :wink:

MYSELF (Nb. I'm sure A N Other will have posted the same, earlier in the thread)
Cyril Haearn
Posts: 15199
Joined: 30 Nov 2013, 11:26am

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by Cyril Haearn »

Sam Tan, Fireman Sam, from Pontypandy, he is exemplary, too good to be true :wink:
Entertainer, juvenile, curmudgeon, PoB, 30120
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
We love safety cameras, we hate bullies
User avatar
Mick F
Spambuster
Posts: 51878
Joined: 7 Jan 2007, 11:24am
Location: Tamar Valley, Cornwall

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by Mick F »

I still think this ......................
pwa wrote:A Role Model is someone who makes you think that you wish were a bit more like them.
Mick F wrote:This is what I cannot comprehend.
Why would anyone want to be like someone else? :shock:
Personally, I'm happy and content being me, and always have been.
I can admire different people for their attributes/qualities etc, but I wouldn't want to be like them.


"Role Model" idea seems a sad idea to me.
It smacks of being a person who aspires to be someone else.
Mick F. Cornwall
Bonefishblues
Posts: 9128
Joined: 7 Jul 2014, 9:45pm
Location: Near Bicester Oxon

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by Bonefishblues »

Think about it as an individual who displays characteristics and behaviours that you would like to adopt, as opposed to wanting to 'be like' them.

I'm quite keen on the idea of being more like a NI EuroLottery Winner at the moment :D
Cyril Haearn
Posts: 15199
Joined: 30 Nov 2013, 11:26am

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by Cyril Haearn »

Mick F wrote:I still think this ......................
pwa wrote:A Role Model is someone who makes you think that you wish were a bit more like them.
Mick F wrote:This is what I cannot comprehend.
Why would anyone want to be like someone else? :shock:
Personally, I'm happy and content being me, and always have been.
I can admire different people for their attributes/qualities etc, but I wouldn't want to be like them.


"Role Model" idea seems a sad idea to me.
It smacks of being a person who aspires to be someone else.

May I adopt Mick F as my role model? He did LeJoG on a Chopper, +858 (miles) :wink:
I have not done LeJoG yet, not even been to Cornwall, yet
Entertainer, juvenile, curmudgeon, PoB, 30120
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
We love safety cameras, we hate bullies
User avatar
Cugel
Posts: 3405
Joined: 13 Nov 2017, 11:14am

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by Cugel »

Cyril Haearn wrote:
Mick F wrote:I still think this ......................
pwa wrote:A Role Model is someone who makes you think that you wish were a bit more like them.
Mick F wrote:This is what I cannot comprehend.
Why would anyone want to be like someone else? :shock:
Personally, I'm happy and content being me, and always have been.
I can admire different people for their attributes/qualities etc, but I wouldn't want to be like them.


"Role Model" idea seems a sad idea to me.
It smacks of being a person who aspires to be someone else.

May I adopt Mick F as my role model? He did LeJoG on a Chopper, +858 (miles) :wink:
I have not done LeJoG yet, not even been to Cornwall, yet

Chopper-riding LEJOG is not a role I would like to play. In fact, you can keep LEJOG, as there are much nicer routes over which to do 858 miles. :-)

How do you feel about those folk ascending the height of Everest by going up their street 793 times because of the bit of a slope it has? Mad, them!

Still, many have taken one mad person or another for a role model. Oswald found Adolf a splendid example, for instance. I knew many a lad in my yoof who looked up to and copied the antics of one local psychopath or another......

Cugel
User avatar
NATURAL ANKLING
Posts: 12783
Joined: 24 Oct 2012, 10:43pm
Location: English Riviera

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by NATURAL ANKLING »

Hi,
Mick F wrote:I still think this ......................
pwa wrote:A Role Model is someone who makes you think that you wish were a bit more like them.
Mick F wrote:This is what I cannot comprehend.
Why would anyone want to be like someone else? :shock:
Personally, I'm happy and content being me, and always have been.
I can admire different people for their attributes/qualities etc, but I wouldn't want to be like them.


"Role Model" idea seems a sad idea to me.
It smacks of being a person who aspires to be someone else.

Yes respect for some thing people do, especially altruistically.
I am in that camp.................Mick's camp................we are one and the same.............dammed by some :lol:
NA Thinks Just End 2 End Return + Bivvy
You'll Still Find Me At The Top Of A Hill
Please forgive the poor Grammar I blame it on my mobile and phat thinkers.
User avatar
Patrickpioneer
Posts: 322
Joined: 25 Sep 2017, 11:18am
Location: Brynteg

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by Patrickpioneer »

My role model? My Grandad.
Pat
User avatar
gaz
Posts: 14229
Joined: 9 Mar 2007, 12:09pm
Location: Kent, lorry park of England

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by gaz »

Cyril Haearn wrote:Lance Dopestrong ... used to be a role model, doubtless for many on here

I'm not sure how Lance will feel when he hears that he is no longer your role model.

I wonder what he did to lose that status? :wink:
Cyril Haearn
Posts: 15199
Joined: 30 Nov 2013, 11:26am

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by Cyril Haearn »

'Saint' Regina Hildebrandt, East German politician, died 2001
Reading about her at lunchtime, had to laugh a lot
'Erzaehlt mir doch nich, dasset nicht jeht!', she would bark in her lovely Berlin accent
(Don't try to tell me we cannae do that!)
Entertainer, juvenile, curmudgeon, PoB, 30120
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
We love safety cameras, we hate bullies
cyclop
Posts: 519
Joined: 3 Oct 2013, 7:49am
Location: Dumfriesshire

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by cyclop »

Ken Russell-1952 tour of Britain winner.No team,next to no help from his back up vehicle(too slow),did it on his own.A massive chapeau.Not a role model though,just total respect.
Cyril Haearn
Posts: 15199
Joined: 30 Nov 2013, 11:26am

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by Cyril Haearn »

Greta Tintin Thunberg
* 3.1.2003
Travelled to Davos by train not by private jet!
Entertainer, juvenile, curmudgeon, PoB, 30120
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
We love safety cameras, we hate bullies
Oldjohnw
Posts: 6567
Joined: 16 Oct 2018, 4:23am
Location: Northumberland

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by Oldjohnw »

I don't have role models. There are aspects of the behaviour and character of some which I have admired and respected and tried to learn from or even tried to emulate.

Everyone has feet of clay.
John
User avatar
Cugel
Posts: 3405
Joined: 13 Nov 2017, 11:14am

Re: Role model: who is yours?

Post by Cugel »

Mick F wrote:I still think this ......................
pwa wrote:A Role Model is someone who makes you think that you wish were a bit more like them.
Mick F wrote:This is what I cannot comprehend.
Why would anyone want to be like someone else? :shock:
Personally, I'm happy and content being me, and always have been.
I can admire different people for their attributes/qualities etc, but I wouldn't want to be like them.


"Role Model" idea seems a sad idea to me.
It smacks of being a person who aspires to be someone else.


Hmmmm - is this not just the perspective of a common-or-garden modern individual, unsure of the meaning of "social" ? One may read about past and present societies in which there is no such individualism and the folk regard themselves as an exudation of their history and culture, highly connected to all the others therein. The Far East has many such societies, for example.

In truth, even we Westerners are not at all individual, despite our wish, belief and craving that we are so. Very few of us indeed could survive, physically or mentally, without being part of a vast number of social and cultural institutions wrought and provided by history. In practice, we all copy each other most of the time. The essential function of language is to provide for this, as it shares not only the noises we make but their meanings. It also transmits our requirements of others - how we wish them to behave, believe and generally co-operate.

So the concept of a role model, although a little inimical to the more rabid notions of individualism, makes sense. We look to those providing the best examples of co-operative, considerate social behaviours that fulfill our requirements of others, particularly ourselves and those others we believe to be righteous.

Sadly, the very notion of individualism - especially in it's most rabid post-modern formats (think Trump and similar self-centred little skinbags) - undermines notions of social co-operation, common-feelings, behavioural expectations and other features of a civilised society. Instead, our current individualistic notions demand that we are able to do as we want; and that we expect others to do so too.

Such individualism is self-enforcing. When everyone seems to be nothing more than a self-centred little skinbag of greater or lesser degree, who is left acting in the righteous fashion we would wish to both benefit from and emulate? No one (hardly).

I do have a role model, though - the ladywife. I am also hers. This is known as "being married" in the old-fashioned way, in which there is always tolerance, compromise and co-operation, leading to contentment and happiness. There are other kinds of marriages in which two individuals remain as such. Far from being each other's role models, they often become bitter enemies.

Cugel
Post Reply