Mick F wrote:
The way I see it, there are two reasons to stay IN.
kwackers wrote:At least 'in' we get some input into what the rules are.
Which is a better position to be in than trying to deal with the EU from the outside where we have no input or influence on any EU ruling,on trade or anything else FTM,human rights is a classic example.
The second reason is fear of the unknown if we go OUT.
It isn't a fear of the unknown for the reasons of trade alone we know
we'll have to trade with the EU without any say in how it's run,and if we don't trade with it we'll have to find other markets,markets we haven't even begun to explore.
Immigration(a key issue in a lot of the outers minds)will still be needed to make up our workforce as has been pointed out on more than a few times on this thread.
People legislation,workers rights,human rights,etc are to the forefront of EU thinking and provision.Frankly I don't trust UK governments keep up such high standards unless there's a radical change and shift back to centre/centre left politics in the UK.
In the interest of a balance .........
Two reasons to go OUT:
We're better off alone and be able to set our own agendas and rules.
Alone is not a good word in world economics,more so when coupled with the words 'better off'.
When connected with the words 'own agendas and rules' it spells 'isolation' and thoughts of 'we're the centre of things'.
The words 'dream' and 'on' spring more readily to mind,and the phrase 'looking to the past through rose tinted spectacles'
It's a dream of greatness and Rule Britainnia,colonialism,Empires and no setting sun.....
On the whole, British people don't feel European
It's because we're odd,because we still cling to the past and look west,pretending to see the promised land over the horizon,when Europe is next door,so close we can almost walk there,in the past the UK was populated by Europeans and still is.
We need to get through our skulls that we are Europeans and that Europe poses no threat to our well being,when we have a say in how it's run,if we don't we'll will most definitely be 'alone' and more than likely with BoJo or Osborne as PM